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I wonder if there is a way we place these App Store decisions into the hands of a third party. Either that or break Android away from Google and forbid them fro

I wonder if there is a way we place these App Store decisions into the hands of a third party. Either that or break Android away from Google and forbid them from colluding.

colechristensen 6y ago
Legislation equating these walled gardens as a new kind of monopoly. Legislation making “terms and conditions” less like laws, and less enforceable.
- onethought 6y ago
  But wouldn’t that bring down most software companies... terms and conditions have some pretty important legitimate uses...
  - colechristensen 6y ago
    No, software isn’t special, you should be able to buy it just like you buy other things.
    - onethought 6y ago
      What other things? Do you mean not using copyright as the underlying control mechanism? how do you recoup your investment then when making software? wont everyone just pirate/duplicate it?
      - dvdkon 6y ago
        "Terms and conditions" often contain more than just restrictions on copying, they can have everything from arbitration clauses, through anti-interoperability clauses, to obligations that go directly against local laws.
        onethought 6y ago
        That’s not what I was replying to. There are legit uses is terms and conditions... so where should they go? The GP said software should be bought like everything else... but everything else can’t be easily duplicated and shared... so how will that work?
        peteradio 6y ago
        If I buy an apple, maybe I want to eat it. Perhaps I'd like to smoosh it under my boot. Maybe it goes up me bum. Now what does a magic apple copier have to do with me putting apples up my bum?
        onethought 6y ago
        You could produce at no cost all the apples and cut out the original apple grower with no upfront costs yourself. So the problem is: you break capitalism, hard.
gremlinsinc 6y ago
Handset makers could start some sort of ... Open Handset alliance, oh wait..that's how we got Android. Nope. Better alternative would probably be some sort of blockchain thing with reviews baked in and maybe authority nodes (devs with experience) could validate/clear apps from having viruses/etc... or just have a reporting mechanism so apps get pulled when suspicious.
simonkafan 6y ago
It would already help if the rules of the app stores were decided by a parliament. And kicking a provider out of the store requires a court ruling.
- matbatt38 6y ago
  That would make legit ban very slow and ineffective tho

I wonder if there is a way we place these App Store decisions into the hands of a third party. Either that or break Android away from Google and forbid them from colluding.

colechristensen 6y ago

Legislation equating these walled gardens as a new kind of monopoly. Legislation making “terms and conditions” less like laws, and less enforceable.

onethought 6y ago
But wouldn’t that bring down most software companies... terms and conditions have some pretty important legitimate uses...
- colechristensen 6y ago
  No, software isn’t special, you should be able to buy it just like you buy other things.
  - onethought 6y ago
    What other things? Do you mean not using copyright as the underlying control mechanism? how do you recoup your investment then when making software? wont everyone just pirate/duplicate it?
    - dvdkon 6y ago
      "Terms and conditions" often contain more than just restrictions on copying, they can have everything from arbitration clauses, through anti-interoperability clauses, to obligations that go directly against local laws.
      - onethought 6y ago
        That’s not what I was replying to. There are legit uses is terms and conditions... so where should they go? The GP said software should be bought like everything else... but everything else can’t be easily duplicated and shared... so how will that work?
        peteradio 6y ago
        If I buy an apple, maybe I want to eat it. Perhaps I'd like to smoosh it under my boot. Maybe it goes up me bum. Now what does a magic apple copier have to do with me putting apples up my bum?
        onethought 6y ago
        You could produce at no cost all the apples and cut out the original apple grower with no upfront costs yourself. So the problem is: you break capitalism, hard.

gremlinsinc 6y ago

Handset makers could start some sort of ... Open Handset alliance, oh wait..that's how we got Android. Nope. Better alternative would probably be some sort of blockchain thing with reviews baked in and maybe authority nodes (devs with experience) could validate/clear apps from having viruses/etc... or just have a reporting mechanism so apps get pulled when suspicious.

simonkafan 6y ago

It would already help if the rules of the app stores were decided by a parliament. And kicking a provider out of the store requires a court ruling.

matbatt38 6y ago
That would make legit ban very slow and ineffective tho