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“Literally no plan”? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Even the most cursory effort would tell you it’s not true.

by esja 6y ago

triceratops 6y ago
What was the plan? Other than "let the states handle it". Which is the same as "no plan".
- esja 6y ago
  Right now a lot of people are getting vaccinated - an unprecedented achievement. Did that happen by magic? That’s one example that a federal plan existed, and there are plenty of others if you care to look for yourself. It’s been 12 months now since the US banned flights from China. A lot has happened since then. People can differ on whether the federal plan was a good one (I happen to believe it wasn’t very good), but to believe there was no plan at all is just mental self-harm.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    > Right now a lot of people are getting vaccinated But we are far behind schedule and projections. 20m people were supposed be vaccinated in December. Only 1m were actually vaccinated.[1] 5% is a failing grade. > That’s one example that a federal plan existed Even the federal vaccination plan under Trump was essentially "leave it to the states". Now I accept that in these circumstances state governments are better equipped to understand the needs of their people. But if the communication about shipments - size and dates - is bad, states can't plan efficiently. And that's what happened.[2] 1. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/23/covid-vaccine-us-has-vaccinated-1-million-people-out-of-goal-of-20-million-for-december.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/23/covid-vaccine-us-has-vaccina... 2. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/27/ron-klain/trump-vaccine-plan-left-logistics-states-it-did-ex/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/27/ron-klain/...
    - esja 6y ago
      My concern was just with trianglem misrepresenting reality. “Literally no plan” means: literally no plan. You’re making a different (and better) argument here, which I have no problem with at all. Although if you look at the situation in Europe right now, you’d probably have to admit the US did a better job on vaccines. In my country the Moderna vaccine looks like it will save the day for us. We didn’t make that happen so fast and so effectively - the US government did.

“Literally no plan”? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Even the most cursory effort would tell you it’s not true.

by esja 6y ago

“Literally no plan”? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Even the most cursory effort would tell you it’s not true.

triceratops 6y ago

What was the plan? Other than "let the states handle it". Which is the same as "no plan".

esja 6y ago
Right now a lot of people are getting vaccinated - an unprecedented achievement. Did that happen by magic? That’s one example that a federal plan existed, and there are plenty of others if you care to look for yourself. It’s been 12 months now since the US banned flights from China. A lot has happened since then. People can differ on whether the federal plan was a good one (I happen to believe it wasn’t very good), but to believe there was no plan at all is just mental self-harm.
- triceratops 6y ago
  > Right now a lot of people are getting vaccinated But we are far behind schedule and projections. 20m people were supposed be vaccinated in December. Only 1m were actually vaccinated.[1] 5% is a failing grade. > That’s one example that a federal plan existed Even the federal vaccination plan under Trump was essentially "leave it to the states". Now I accept that in these circumstances state governments are better equipped to understand the needs of their people. But if the communication about shipments - size and dates - is bad, states can't plan efficiently. And that's what happened.[2] 1. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/23/covid-vaccine-us-has-vaccinated-1-million-people-out-of-goal-of-20-million-for-december.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/23/covid-vaccine-us-has-vaccina... 2. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/27/ron-klain/trump-vaccine-plan-left-logistics-states-it-did-ex/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/27/ron-klain/...
  - esja 6y ago
    My concern was just with trianglem misrepresenting reality. “Literally no plan” means: literally no plan. You’re making a different (and better) argument here, which I have no problem with at all. Although if you look at the situation in Europe right now, you’d probably have to admit the US did a better job on vaccines. In my country the Moderna vaccine looks like it will save the day for us. We didn’t make that happen so fast and so effectively - the US government did.