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This is the upside down crazy we are faced with when a tiny number of giant companies make decisions on whims of ever changing policy. We need to fight back wi
by DLA 6y ago
This is the upside down crazy we are faced with when a tiny number of giant companies make decisions on whims of ever changing policy.
We need to fight back with things like PWAs to bypass the app stores, web socket chats, distributed social platforms, and plain old web pages to publicly document these attacks on free speech. Call/email Congress too. Get friends and neighbors to do the same. They are already alerted to this growing abuse by these monopolistic giants.
- Arathorn 6y agoGood point. https://hydrogen.element.io https://hydrogen.element.io works very well as a PWA, but doesn’t have push support yet.
- Santosh83 6y agoHSTS preloading blacklists may at some future point, block PWA as well. The real problem is indeed how much power society has given these corps. It's time to take back some power or we will never be able to.
- duskwuff 6y ago> HSTS preloading blacklists may at some future point, block PWA as well. What on earth are you talking about? 1) As far as I am aware, there is no "HSTS preloading blacklist". I'm not sure what that would even mean. 2) HSTS preloading is not a prerequisite for creating a PWA. Nor is presence on the HSTS preload list (not "blacklist") an obstacle to creating a PWA.
- mrighele 6y agoEven easier, the website used by the PWA can end up on the blacklist of Google Safe Browsing [1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25802366 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25802366
- drchaos 6y agoIn the medium/long term, this would just train people to ignore those popups. Or to use a patched browser. There is simply no way to suppress content as long as there's enough demand. Somebody's always going to find a way to deliver. That's even true for really illegal stuff like drugs, copyright infringement or child abuse material, but so much more for content which is legal.
- mrighele 6y agoI was thinking specifically about PWA on Android. I don't think you can change the browser used in that case, and I could see Google decide that you cannot open a PWA if the website is on the blacklist.
- georgyo 6y agoApple has a hard requirement that you use the safari rendering engine for all browsers. So even Firefox on iOS is really just reskined safari. Android is much more open, you can download Firefox on Android and it will infact be Firefox. What would be more scary is if the force all browsers on the Google store to implement and enforce the same deny list.
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