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Facebook is more popular than iOS, and they maintain a developer platform as well. What kinds of distinctions could they draw which force Apple to open up its p

Facebook is more popular than iOS, and they maintain a developer platform as well. What kinds of distinctions could they draw which force Apple to open up its platform without also having to open up the Facebook SDK? Should courts force Facebook to allow apps that populate newsfeed?

ogre_codes 6y ago
Facebook is more prevalent/ ubiquitous than iOS. I'm not sure I'd agree it's more popular.
- shuckles 6y ago
  Sure. My question still stands with your framing.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    It's a neat question, I wish I had a good answer.
dleslie 6y ago
Indeed. Where is my ability to run my own ad service, payment processor, et cetera through Facebook's servers?
- shuckles 6y ago
  I’m sure Google would love to let users choose whose ad network delivers them ads on Facebook properties. There might even be room for innovation here.
axlee 6y ago
This is a bad faith argument: an operating system is fundamentally different from an application.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  Not at all. What is Apple's monopoly? It is not in Smartphones, they barely have 50% share. Their monopoly is on access to iOS users. You cannot claim iOS is a monopoly without saying the same thing about Facebook. Facebook has a monopoly on Facebook users.
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    Monopoly != Trust
  - mdoms 6y ago
    The word "monopoly" doesn't appear in the article....
- shuckles 6y ago
  Web browsers are applications where similar arguments apply. Facebook once had thousands of 3rd party applications running on their platform and has steadily removed support for most of them. I’m not asking on behalf of a random weather app; I’m asking on behalf of an application with more users than iOS. I don’t think there’s a universe where Apple removes Facebook from the App Store. At that point, why are you a mere app developer or why should you be treated as such? As an aside, I’m asking the question very sincerely. I’m always open to more developer platforms - it’s in my professional interest.

ogre_codes 6y ago

Facebook is more prevalent/ ubiquitous than iOS. I'm not sure I'd agree it's more popular.

shuckles 6y ago
Sure. My question still stands with your framing.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  It's a neat question, I wish I had a good answer.

dleslie 6y ago

Indeed. Where is my ability to run my own ad service, payment processor, et cetera through Facebook's servers?

shuckles 6y ago
I’m sure Google would love to let users choose whose ad network delivers them ads on Facebook properties. There might even be room for innovation here.

axlee 6y ago

This is a bad faith argument: an operating system is fundamentally different from an application.

ogre_codes 6y ago
Not at all. What is Apple's monopoly? It is not in Smartphones, they barely have 50% share. Their monopoly is on access to iOS users. You cannot claim iOS is a monopoly without saying the same thing about Facebook. Facebook has a monopoly on Facebook users.
- mhh__ 6y ago
  Monopoly != Trust
- mdoms 6y ago
  The word "monopoly" doesn't appear in the article....
shuckles 6y ago
Web browsers are applications where similar arguments apply. Facebook once had thousands of 3rd party applications running on their platform and has steadily removed support for most of them. I’m not asking on behalf of a random weather app; I’m asking on behalf of an application with more users than iOS. I don’t think there’s a universe where Apple removes Facebook from the App Store. At that point, why are you a mere app developer or why should you be treated as such? As an aside, I’m asking the question very sincerely. I’m always open to more developer platforms - it’s in my professional interest.