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10 years ago, I could get behind the anti-cop bit as things had gone too far police state, but today with dangerous crazed chaos in the streets and the being ma

10 years ago, I could get behind the anti-cop bit as things had gone too far police state, but today with dangerous crazed chaos in the streets and the being made to do all the kneeling and feet washing... Anybody who can stand working as a cop deserves a medal.

moate 6y ago
Can you spin this thought out a little more? Do you think cops have gotten LESS power over the last 10 years? Do you believe their unions suddenly stopped being some of the strongest political forces? Also, cops make about 15K more than the average job(1) and that's because they're EXTREMELY well compensated in blue-states (presumably where they are made to wash the most feet?). They also still have their qualified immunity, so it's not like it's gotten that much harder to "do the job". Violent crime has been trending down for decades(2). There has not been a massive spike in "crazed chaos in the streets" people just think there is because reasons. Nah dude, hold cops accountable. Just like any other public servant. 1- https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2020/04/23/police-officer-salary-state/?sh=bd8efe2010c4 https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2020/04/23/polic... 2- https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/20/facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/20/facts-about...
- buffaloo 6y ago
  Good point. Crime is down. Sounds like policing is working. Give the boys in blue a raise. Anyone who thinks police are overpaid should apply for the job.
  - moate 6y ago
    Why not the opposite? Crime is down, policing is working: stop expanding police force size, keep budgets in place, and see what happens. We have no idea if it's "more/higher paid cops" that's causing the reduction in crime, or other societal factors. At a certain point it's diminishing returns to continue investing in something to try and move those last couple percentage points. You're never going to have a 0% crime rate, no matter how much money you throw at the problem.

moate 6y ago

Can you spin this thought out a little more? Do you think cops have gotten LESS power over the last 10 years? Do you believe their unions suddenly stopped being some of the strongest political forces? Also, cops make about 15K more than the average job(1) and that's because they're EXTREMELY well compensated in blue-states (presumably where they are made to wash the most feet?). They also still have their qualified immunity, so it's not like it's gotten that much harder to "do the job". Violent crime has been trending down for decades(2). There has not been a massive spike in "crazed chaos in the streets" people just think there is because reasons. Nah dude, hold cops accountable. Just like any other public servant. 1- https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2020/04/23/police-officer-salary-state/?sh=bd8efe2010c4 https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewdepietro/2020/04/23/polic... 2- https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/20/facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/11/20/facts-about...

buffaloo 6y ago
Good point. Crime is down. Sounds like policing is working. Give the boys in blue a raise. Anyone who thinks police are overpaid should apply for the job.
- moate 6y ago
  Why not the opposite? Crime is down, policing is working: stop expanding police force size, keep budgets in place, and see what happens. We have no idea if it's "more/higher paid cops" that's causing the reduction in crime, or other societal factors. At a certain point it's diminishing returns to continue investing in something to try and move those last couple percentage points. You're never going to have a 0% crime rate, no matter how much money you throw at the problem.