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While practical advice for the current state of affairs, it is irrelevant here as the whole point here is that we don't like the current state of affairs: they
by saurik 6y ago
While practical advice for the current state of affairs, it is irrelevant here as the whole point here is that we don't like the current state of affairs: they shouldn't get to lie to people from their position of authority and asymmetric requirements, and if it can be proven that they lied to the suspect it should be something a lawyer can use to invalidate testimony (which might be brutal for the ability to convict the person, leading to police being trained to not do it, etc.).
- Spooky23 6y agoThere's a spectrum of dishonesty and different ethical considerations. "Don't lie" sounds like a no-brainer, but there is alot of complexity baked in. Is the issue the use of deception to investigate crime or making specific types of dishonest statements?
- saurik 6y agoFWIW, my direct and immediate issues are when the system lies to people about the way the system works. The power imbalance is already ridiculously high when someone has you in custody--momentarily, temporarily, or permanently--that it seems entirely unconscionable to me that the system then further gets to lie to you about your status or what will happen to you next.