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As somebody who protested AGAINST neo-nazis but was constantly put in harm's way because antifa decided their best course of action was open violence against th

As somebody who protested AGAINST neo-nazis but was constantly put in harm's way because antifa decided their best course of action was open violence against the police (while largely ignoring the actual neo-nazis that were present, curiously enough), and maybe burning some shit, with me in the middle of stone-throwing antifas and police, I welcome antifa going down in flames. To me, who had the displeasure of observing antifa in action again and again, they are immature violent hooligans looking for trouble wherever they can find it and not much else.

soco 6y ago
I know those thugs very well. Some are antifa, some are football fans, some are neonazis, yet they are all the same, thugs. But please, don't generalize this experience. There's a lot of anti-nazi activism (see, I avoid using the Trump-loaded term "antifa") which has a valid place in our society, maybe nowadays even more than years ago because somehow people are forgetting who were we fighting against 70 years ago.
- rndgermandude 6y ago
  I know there is a lot of "anti nazi"/"anti fascism"/"anti racsim"/"social justice" activism, I was part of some of it myself, as I said. ;) Besides participating and sometimes helping to organize counter-protests to nazi protests, I was e.g. active in the EXIT project[1], an organization with the aim to help people leave nazi orgs/structures/lifestyle and find back into a life without extremsism. But the label "antifa" or "antifascist" is forever burned for me. This wasn't just some "bad eggs" or "misguided youth". I've never met a self-declared "antifa" person who wasn't either a violent asshole or supported violent assholery, and I've met quite a few. [1] https://www.exit-deutschland.de/ https://www.exit-deutschland.de/
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  They called themselves antifa for years before Trump heard of them. They have facebook groups, websites, stickers, and flags that use the word proudly. I don’t think you are familiar with them.
- Leparamour 6y ago
  >maybe nowadays even more than years ago because somehow people are forgetting who were we fighting against 70 years ago. >70 years ago Who were you fighting in 1951? ;) By the way, the Sturmabteilung (SA) was founded as a reaction to communist street terror (Roter Frontkämpferbund). Will history repeat again?

soco 6y ago

I know those thugs very well. Some are antifa, some are football fans, some are neonazis, yet they are all the same, thugs. But please, don't generalize this experience. There's a lot of anti-nazi activism (see, I avoid using the Trump-loaded term "antifa") which has a valid place in our society, maybe nowadays even more than years ago because somehow people are forgetting who were we fighting against 70 years ago.

rndgermandude 6y ago
I know there is a lot of "anti nazi"/"anti fascism"/"anti racsim"/"social justice" activism, I was part of some of it myself, as I said. ;) Besides participating and sometimes helping to organize counter-protests to nazi protests, I was e.g. active in the EXIT project[1], an organization with the aim to help people leave nazi orgs/structures/lifestyle and find back into a life without extremsism. But the label "antifa" or "antifascist" is forever burned for me. This wasn't just some "bad eggs" or "misguided youth". I've never met a self-declared "antifa" person who wasn't either a violent asshole or supported violent assholery, and I've met quite a few. [1] https://www.exit-deutschland.de/ https://www.exit-deutschland.de/
lawnchair_larry 6y ago
They called themselves antifa for years before Trump heard of them. They have facebook groups, websites, stickers, and flags that use the word proudly. I don’t think you are familiar with them.
Leparamour 6y ago
>maybe nowadays even more than years ago because somehow people are forgetting who were we fighting against 70 years ago. >70 years ago Who were you fighting in 1951? ;) By the way, the Sturmabteilung (SA) was founded as a reaction to communist street terror (Roter Frontkämpferbund). Will history repeat again?