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Care to share any examples or references of where Apple is being dishonest here?

sneak 6y ago
The Jobs quote on page 2. All iOS devices and all M1 macs maintain a persistent serial-number-linked connection to Apple at all times, even if you don't use iCloud, don't have an Apple ID, don't use FaceTime/iMessage, don't use the App Store, and have analytics turned off. No indication that this is happening is displayed, and there's no way to turn it off. Your client IP discloses the city the device is in, and the ISP. This means that Apple has a city-level, ISP-level location tracklog of every iOS device and all M1 macs (and possibly intel macs too) by serial number. You're not asked, you're not even told. This is the exact opposite of their headline founder quote on the first non-title page of the doc.
- user-the-name 6y ago
  Again, it would be nice if you presented evidence of your claims.
  - sneak 6y ago
    It's called APNS, and the evidence is in the network traffic of every M1 mac and every iOS device. This isn't a secret, the way APNS works has been documented for years. Would you like a pcap? I can send you a pcap.
    - user-the-name 6y ago
      APNS is the notification service? Notification tokens are randomly generated, and are refreshed regularly. I have heard zero suggestion anywhere that they would be used for any kind of tracking, other than routing notifications to the correct device.
      - Cilvic 6y ago
        >I have heard zero suggestion anywhere that they would be used for any kind of tracking Yet it could. GP just said Apple has the info and it can't be turned off. Which I find interesting in the context of the PDF above.
        user-the-name 6y ago
        Has what info?
    - avianlyric 6y ago
      I would like a pcap.
      - sneak 6y ago
        Email me, I have done the testing on M1 systems recently (I bought one just for the purpose!).
- cecja 6y ago
  You are literally asked to read their terms of services when you first start your phone or mac. You are just spreading FUD like all the other dropship cunts around here. Fuck your t-shirt and fuck off.

The Jobs quote on page 2. All iOS devices and all M1 macs maintain a persistent serial-number-linked connection to Apple at all times, even if you don't use iCloud, don't have an Apple ID, don't use FaceTime/iMessage, don't use the App Store, and have analytics turned off. No indication that this is happening is displayed, and there's no way to turn it off. Your client IP discloses the city the device is in, and the ISP. This means that Apple has a city-level, ISP-level location tracklog of every iOS device and all M1 macs (and possibly intel macs too) by serial number. You're not asked, you're not even told. This is the exact opposite of their headline founder quote on the first non-title page of the doc.

user-the-name 6y ago
Again, it would be nice if you presented evidence of your claims.
- sneak 6y ago
  It's called APNS, and the evidence is in the network traffic of every M1 mac and every iOS device. This isn't a secret, the way APNS works has been documented for years. Would you like a pcap? I can send you a pcap.
  - user-the-name 6y ago
    APNS is the notification service? Notification tokens are randomly generated, and are refreshed regularly. I have heard zero suggestion anywhere that they would be used for any kind of tracking, other than routing notifications to the correct device.
    - Cilvic 6y ago
      >I have heard zero suggestion anywhere that they would be used for any kind of tracking Yet it could. GP just said Apple has the info and it can't be turned off. Which I find interesting in the context of the PDF above.
      - user-the-name 6y ago
        Has what info?
  - avianlyric 6y ago
    I would like a pcap.
    - sneak 6y ago
      Email me, I have done the testing on M1 systems recently (I bought one just for the purpose!).
cecja 6y ago
You are literally asked to read their terms of services when you first start your phone or mac. You are just spreading FUD like all the other dropship cunts around here. Fuck your t-shirt and fuck off.