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Let me be controversial for a second but this is not such a big deal. because they were always doing it only slower and manually. Its same with deepfakes. I a

Let me be controversial for a second but this is not such a big deal. because they were always doing it only slower and manually. Its same with deepfakes. I am not happy or supporting either but with rise in computational power some things are unavoidable. Police always used photo id databases in manhunts. And deepfakes existed in Victorian era. We need to make sure that auditing agencies monitoring the government and offices and non profits protecting civil rights also gets technological and financial boost. Everything else is just attacking the windmills.

breakfastduck 6y ago
It’s not the same though, because when done manually it is possible to be overloaded with the sheer volume of imagery to comb through. Like saying someone is able to manually throw a grenade so we might as well just carpet bomb everything.
mhh__ 6y ago
Guns existed before machine guns, you do have to consider the consequences of a bifurcation (loose speak)
donpott 6y ago
"Sometimes a difference in scale makes a difference in kind" (heard in a CGPGrey video, but I'm sure the quote predates it)
- kwhitefoot 6y ago
  Something like it goes back a couple of thousand years or more, see the note about Stalin and "Quantity has a quality all its own." at https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Stalin&oldid=1993027 https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Stalin&old...
howaboutnope 6y ago
Yeah, and the difference between drinking a glass of water and drowning is also just one of scale and rate. Same for a pat on the back, and being violently attacked -- it's just physical impact, the only difference is the speed. > I am not happy or supporting either Then don't.
coldtea 6y ago
>Let me be controversial for a second but this is not such a big deal. because they were always doing it only slower and manually. "Nuclear weapons are not a big deal, we used rocks and arrows for the same purpose in the past anyway..." The similarities between past and present are irrelevant to draw conclusions from without also having the difference in mind. And the difference here is one of scale. Dosage makes the cure or the poison.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
>because they were always doing it only slower and manually. That's exactly the difference. Because it was laborious and therefore expensive the techniques used to be reserved for when they were actually warranted. Now because it's cheap and easy those techniques get used for petty crimes.

breakfastduck 6y ago

It’s not the same though, because when done manually it is possible to be overloaded with the sheer volume of imagery to comb through. Like saying someone is able to manually throw a grenade so we might as well just carpet bomb everything.

mhh__ 6y ago

Guns existed before machine guns, you do have to consider the consequences of a bifurcation (loose speak)

donpott 6y ago

"Sometimes a difference in scale makes a difference in kind" (heard in a CGPGrey video, but I'm sure the quote predates it)

kwhitefoot 6y ago
Something like it goes back a couple of thousand years or more, see the note about Stalin and "Quantity has a quality all its own." at https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Stalin&oldid=1993027 https://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Stalin&old...

howaboutnope 6y ago

Yeah, and the difference between drinking a glass of water and drowning is also just one of scale and rate. Same for a pat on the back, and being violently attacked -- it's just physical impact, the only difference is the speed. > I am not happy or supporting either Then don't.

coldtea 6y ago

>Let me be controversial for a second but this is not such a big deal. because they were always doing it only slower and manually. "Nuclear weapons are not a big deal, we used rocks and arrows for the same purpose in the past anyway..." The similarities between past and present are irrelevant to draw conclusions from without also having the difference in mind. And the difference here is one of scale. Dosage makes the cure or the poison.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

>because they were always doing it only slower and manually. That's exactly the difference. Because it was laborious and therefore expensive the techniques used to be reserved for when they were actually warranted. Now because it's cheap and easy those techniques get used for petty crimes.