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Yes of course. >Someone like yourself who's just trying to put a better app in front of Robinhood? Yes I would expect some user to complaint, the service is p

by matz1 6y ago

Yes of course. >Someone like yourself who's just trying to put a better app in front of Robinhood? Yes I would expect some user to complaint, the service is part of the app experience.

dataflow 6y ago
That seems so unreasonable to me. What could that person's app have possibly done better to receive a better rating?! Do you blame people who are doing the best any human can do in their position when they have absolutely no control over anything?
- matz1 6y ago
  For me its not unreasonable. >What could that person's app have possibly done better to receive a better rating?! You can try find workaround, change to alternative service, build your own service (I'm not implying that its easy), or just simply accept that. Yes there will always be something you can't control but doesn't mean its an excuse to get away.
  - dataflow 6y ago
    That's so terrible. But thanks for sharing. I guess now I see how we end up driving good people out of positions of power and leave worse ones to fill their vacuums.
    - matz1 6y ago
      So you want the app has good rating even though the underlying service is bad that cause the whole experience to be bad ? Thats so terrible.
- brigandish 6y ago
  > Do you blame people who are doing the best any human can do in their position when they have absolutely no control over anything? If someone advertises a service but cannot provide that service due to ineptitude, mendacity, or bad luck, then they will be almost certainly be judged on that regardless of their efforts. Their efforts may or may not be taken in to account but this is not school, we are adults, and as such we are all judged based on performance before all other considerations. For those who wish it to be otherwise then that's fine, just don't charge.
  - dataflow 6y ago
    You're confusing what I'm saying. I'm not talking about grading on effort, I'm talking about grading on achievement. Nobody was talking about how much effort went into the app. While I would guess it might've been a lot, I have no clue and I don't care. The question was, do you grade them on what they achieved, or on what someone else achieved on something else that they had no influence over, but which they clearly had no choice but to depend on... regardless of how much effort did or didn't go into their work.

by matz1 6y ago

Yes of course. >Someone like yourself who's just trying to put a better app in front of Robinhood? Yes I would expect some user to complaint, the service is part of the app experience.

dataflow 6y ago

That seems so unreasonable to me. What could that person's app have possibly done better to receive a better rating?! Do you blame people who are doing the best any human can do in their position when they have absolutely no control over anything?

matz1 6y ago
For me its not unreasonable. >What could that person's app have possibly done better to receive a better rating?! You can try find workaround, change to alternative service, build your own service (I'm not implying that its easy), or just simply accept that. Yes there will always be something you can't control but doesn't mean its an excuse to get away.
- dataflow 6y ago
  That's so terrible. But thanks for sharing. I guess now I see how we end up driving good people out of positions of power and leave worse ones to fill their vacuums.
  - matz1 6y ago
    So you want the app has good rating even though the underlying service is bad that cause the whole experience to be bad ? Thats so terrible.
brigandish 6y ago
> Do you blame people who are doing the best any human can do in their position when they have absolutely no control over anything? If someone advertises a service but cannot provide that service due to ineptitude, mendacity, or bad luck, then they will be almost certainly be judged on that regardless of their efforts. Their efforts may or may not be taken in to account but this is not school, we are adults, and as such we are all judged based on performance before all other considerations. For those who wish it to be otherwise then that's fine, just don't charge.
- dataflow 6y ago
  You're confusing what I'm saying. I'm not talking about grading on effort, I'm talking about grading on achievement. Nobody was talking about how much effort went into the app. While I would guess it might've been a lot, I have no clue and I don't care. The question was, do you grade them on what they achieved, or on what someone else achieved on something else that they had no influence over, but which they clearly had no choice but to depend on... regardless of how much effort did or didn't go into their work.