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Discord has since taken the stance of helping the mods, instead of permaban. I liked hearing that news earlier today. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/28/22254

Discord has since taken the stance of helping the mods, instead of permaban. I liked hearing that news earlier today. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/28/22254339/discord-r-wallstreetbets-server-help-moderation-ban https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/28/22254339/discord-r-wallst...

pfraze 6y ago
That’s really encouraging to hear
- Zak 6y ago
  Perhaps, but not as encouraging as a migration to self-hosted Matrix servers on traditional paid dedicated/virtual server hosting that's much less interested in policing its customers' content than platforms are.
  - ralston3 6y ago
    The thing with me is, WSB is a group of what? A few million at least? I saw that they were up to 1.2 million maybe yesterday. And they're having a hard time on most if not all platforms. If not technically, then in terms of some form of censorship (as is the case here). There was the Discord issue, this Facebook issue. I've heard Reddit devs has been helpful with scaling r/wallstreetbets, but even still, the number of users and the (crazy yet benign) content is proving too much for a single subreddit to handle. This is a real-life use case for a possibly open-source, scalable message board. I feel like people are suddenly seeing the downsides of these backdoor-dealing, self-interested walled gardens. The era of the walled garden will end. #RemindMe
    - ZephyrBlu 6y ago
      /r/wallstreetbets has 5.3mil members right now, up from ~2mil a week or so ago. Reddit has not been helpful at all. The mods made a post after they shut down the sub saying that the Reddit API can't handle the amount of traffic they need to moderate, and they've asked for special permissions.
    - loopz 6y ago
      It's a great irony people will stick it to the man using a private closed walled garden. Pump and dump is market manipulation. We all know the system will mitigate, both for survival but also stability and preventing bubbles.
ogre_codes 6y ago
Discord seems to be the one of the least bad of the social/ messaging platforms.
- young_unixer 6y ago
  For now. Wait till they get bigger and Vice or the NYT writes an article about how Discord is a "safe haven for hate speech and white supremacy".
  - scrollaway 6y ago
    That's still a long way away. Maybe negative two years. https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/discord-safe-space-white-supremacists.html https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/discord-safe-space-whit...
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Jon_Lowtek 6y ago
Do i read that article right and this "Helping the mods" is an euphemism? They banned all bad words and image memes (due to lack of ability to check the content with a bot) and told the mods to rigorously enforce compliance with Discords standards or the group gets removed again. Maybe they helped configuring the mod-bot ...
colllectorof 6y ago
Discord is probing how much censorship they can get away with. This is a standard tactic for social media companies today. They ban first then backpedal later if there is too much backlash. This helps them normalize censorship while minimizing reputation loss.
- aeternum 6y ago
  Yes, this is generally the path to maximizing power. It is helpful to test limits periodically.

pfraze 6y ago

That’s really encouraging to hear

Zak 6y ago
Perhaps, but not as encouraging as a migration to self-hosted Matrix servers on traditional paid dedicated/virtual server hosting that's much less interested in policing its customers' content than platforms are.
- ralston3 6y ago
  The thing with me is, WSB is a group of what? A few million at least? I saw that they were up to 1.2 million maybe yesterday. And they're having a hard time on most if not all platforms. If not technically, then in terms of some form of censorship (as is the case here). There was the Discord issue, this Facebook issue. I've heard Reddit devs has been helpful with scaling r/wallstreetbets, but even still, the number of users and the (crazy yet benign) content is proving too much for a single subreddit to handle. This is a real-life use case for a possibly open-source, scalable message board. I feel like people are suddenly seeing the downsides of these backdoor-dealing, self-interested walled gardens. The era of the walled garden will end. #RemindMe
  - ZephyrBlu 6y ago
    /r/wallstreetbets has 5.3mil members right now, up from ~2mil a week or so ago. Reddit has not been helpful at all. The mods made a post after they shut down the sub saying that the Reddit API can't handle the amount of traffic they need to moderate, and they've asked for special permissions.
  - loopz 6y ago
    It's a great irony people will stick it to the man using a private closed walled garden. Pump and dump is market manipulation. We all know the system will mitigate, both for survival but also stability and preventing bubbles.

ogre_codes 6y ago

Discord seems to be the one of the least bad of the social/ messaging platforms.

young_unixer 6y ago
For now. Wait till they get bigger and Vice or the NYT writes an article about how Discord is a "safe haven for hate speech and white supremacy".
- scrollaway 6y ago
  That's still a long way away. Maybe negative two years. https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/discord-safe-space-white-supremacists.html https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/discord-safe-space-whit...
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Jon_Lowtek 6y ago

Do i read that article right and this "Helping the mods" is an euphemism? They banned all bad words and image memes (due to lack of ability to check the content with a bot) and told the mods to rigorously enforce compliance with Discords standards or the group gets removed again. Maybe they helped configuring the mod-bot ...

colllectorof 6y ago

Discord is probing how much censorship they can get away with. This is a standard tactic for social media companies today. They ban first then backpedal later if there is too much backlash. This helps them normalize censorship while minimizing reputation loss.

aeternum 6y ago
Yes, this is generally the path to maximizing power. It is helpful to test limits periodically.