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It was fun when Trump was banned from Twitter, but now I’m mad about WSB!!

asiando 6y ago
People downvoted you but there’s some truth here. There’s only one thing that comes to mind: > First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. > Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. > Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. > Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. I know, I know. Nobody is killing anyone, so let them close any group they don’t like. It’s not a problem amirite?
- abootstrapper 6y ago
  It’s more like: First they came for the fascist but I didn’t speak up because fuck those guys. Then they came for the meme stock traders, and what the fuck even is this timeline. Bottom line is corporations are self serving, and the poem doesn’t really hold up to what is happening.
  - listless 6y ago
    That first paragraph is straight up poetry
    - smattiso 6y ago
      Honestly that's so perfect.
  - andyyv 6y ago
    > First they came for the fascist They told you they were fascist and you believed them. Right now there are people calling WSB a bunch of nazis. See how it works?
  - andy_ppp 6y ago
    “what the fuck even is this timeline” is my new mantra! Thank you :-)
mberning 6y ago
Orange man still bad. Most haven’t realized that the establishment used every trick in the book to install their preferred patsy. They will understand in time.
- spoonjim 6y ago
  Yes, I can’t believe how they treated the orange man who was such a great warrior in service of truth, justice, and shining American success.
  - dmingod666 6y ago
    Like the flawless presidents before him. Didn't get his c*ck sucked in the wh. Didn't lie about a tragedy to start a new war. Did other shitty things. It's a joke that Americans act like this guy was the first bad president.
    - spoonjim 6y ago
      Lol, this wasn’t the first bad President, this was the first openly lawless president since Andrew Jackson.
- spookybones 6y ago
  Show evidence for large scale voting fraud, or you don’t have a case.
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xiphias2 6y ago
The timing was not fun at all. 4 years ago it would have been interesting to treat Trump equally, or wait until the end of his term +1 more bad comment. It was a political coordinated attack against him (and I am saying as a person who's not a Trump fan).
- spookybones 6y ago
  It was a politically coordinated response to a politically coordinated attack on the capitol. What else could be done? At the very least, dog whistling, hyperbole, and calling the electoral system fraudulent without evidence proved he was an extraordinarily dangerous leader. I would go further to say he was completely open to an uprising to regain the throne
userbinator 6y ago
I implore everyone to go re-read all the HN articles about Trump and far-right deplatforming where numerous --highly downvoted-- comments quite correctly predicted what was coming. Trump was "only a test."
- Meekro 6y ago
  Yeah, remember when people were saying "there is no slippery slope, they'll definitely stop at fascists!" Sounds like someone who's never read a history book.
  - Karsteski 6y ago
    It really does surprise me how few people seem to remember history, and how these things always go. It starts off with "those objections people" and then eventually turns on everyone else. But maybe this time it'll be different I'm sure ;)
- another_sock 6y ago
  The whole thing is quite funny. The best part is that we have only just begun this process and by the time we get to the end of it the people who "learned their lesson" about pushing for this won't remember who warned them about it in the first place.
- remoteLily 6y ago
  The two situations are apples and oranges. Trump violated many rules in his years on Twitter. Twitter let him go on for things that would have resulted in a banhammer for anyone else. Same goes for the alt-right. They were allowed to go on for a very long time. Despite the hate and harassment they generated. Are you arguing Trump should have received special treatment forever? That sites can't moderate as they see fit? On the other hand, these WSB bans seem to be related to external pressure from some very wealthy people. Not really the same situation. And not something that's new to the Internet. Digg's blocking of the HD-DVD key comes to mind. Or sites that removed content under threat of a lawsuit.
- shripadk 6y ago
andy_ppp 6y ago
Maybe I should have added a smiley face to explain my hot take was both extremely tongue in cheek and my real reaction at the same time :-)

People downvoted you but there’s some truth here. There’s only one thing that comes to mind: > First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. > Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. > Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. > Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. I know, I know. Nobody is killing anyone, so let them close any group they don’t like. It’s not a problem amirite?

abootstrapper 6y ago
It’s more like: First they came for the fascist but I didn’t speak up because fuck those guys. Then they came for the meme stock traders, and what the fuck even is this timeline. Bottom line is corporations are self serving, and the poem doesn’t really hold up to what is happening.
- listless 6y ago
  That first paragraph is straight up poetry
  - smattiso 6y ago
    Honestly that's so perfect.
- andyyv 6y ago
  > First they came for the fascist They told you they were fascist and you believed them. Right now there are people calling WSB a bunch of nazis. See how it works?
- andy_ppp 6y ago
  “what the fuck even is this timeline” is my new mantra! Thank you :-)

mberning 6y ago

Orange man still bad. Most haven’t realized that the establishment used every trick in the book to install their preferred patsy. They will understand in time.

spoonjim 6y ago
Yes, I can’t believe how they treated the orange man who was such a great warrior in service of truth, justice, and shining American success.
- dmingod666 6y ago
  Like the flawless presidents before him. Didn't get his c*ck sucked in the wh. Didn't lie about a tragedy to start a new war. Did other shitty things. It's a joke that Americans act like this guy was the first bad president.
  - spoonjim 6y ago
    Lol, this wasn’t the first bad President, this was the first openly lawless president since Andrew Jackson.
spookybones 6y ago
Show evidence for large scale voting fraud, or you don’t have a case.

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xiphias2 6y ago

The timing was not fun at all. 4 years ago it would have been interesting to treat Trump equally, or wait until the end of his term +1 more bad comment. It was a political coordinated attack against him (and I am saying as a person who's not a Trump fan).

spookybones 6y ago
It was a politically coordinated response to a politically coordinated attack on the capitol. What else could be done? At the very least, dog whistling, hyperbole, and calling the electoral system fraudulent without evidence proved he was an extraordinarily dangerous leader. I would go further to say he was completely open to an uprising to regain the throne

userbinator 6y ago

I implore everyone to go re-read all the HN articles about Trump and far-right deplatforming where numerous --highly downvoted-- comments quite correctly predicted what was coming. Trump was "only a test."

Meekro 6y ago
Yeah, remember when people were saying "there is no slippery slope, they'll definitely stop at fascists!" Sounds like someone who's never read a history book.
- Karsteski 6y ago
  It really does surprise me how few people seem to remember history, and how these things always go. It starts off with "those objections people" and then eventually turns on everyone else. But maybe this time it'll be different I'm sure ;)
another_sock 6y ago
The whole thing is quite funny. The best part is that we have only just begun this process and by the time we get to the end of it the people who "learned their lesson" about pushing for this won't remember who warned them about it in the first place.
remoteLily 6y ago
The two situations are apples and oranges. Trump violated many rules in his years on Twitter. Twitter let him go on for things that would have resulted in a banhammer for anyone else. Same goes for the alt-right. They were allowed to go on for a very long time. Despite the hate and harassment they generated. Are you arguing Trump should have received special treatment forever? That sites can't moderate as they see fit? On the other hand, these WSB bans seem to be related to external pressure from some very wealthy people. Not really the same situation. And not something that's new to the Internet. Digg's blocking of the HD-DVD key comes to mind. Or sites that removed content under threat of a lawsuit.
shripadk 6y ago

andy_ppp 6y ago

Maybe I should have added a smiley face to explain my hot take was both extremely tongue in cheek and my real reaction at the same time :-)