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For me, the most frustrating example of this is the control panel on Windows. The new mobile-friendly menus exclude many important "advanced" (emphasis on the

For me, the most frustrating example of this is the control panel on Windows. The new mobile-friendly menus exclude many important "advanced" (emphasis on the quotes) settings, especially related to audio and networking. The old menu is still available, but over the years they've made it progressively harder to find. But when apps get confused about my bluetooth headset the only way to fix it is to pull up the old menu.

hansvm 6y ago
Off-topic, one of the things that surprised me the most when I finally made the jump to Linux (I don't remember anymore which dark pattern finally turned me off of Windows, but it was one too goddamned many) -- the bluetooth support was light-years ahead of anything I'd previously encountered. I was expecting hardware incompatibilities to be way more problematic than they actually were.
- benrbray 6y ago
  It infuriates me to no end that bluetooth headsets have two modes -- one for listening only, and one for listening+voice, where the latter has absurdly low audio quality. This has been a major source of problems for me, especially on Windows, where I often have to manually switch between the two. I have two Linux laptops. On one, Bluetooth devices endlessly disconnect/reconnect and I gave up entirely. On the other, Bluetooth works flawlessly, better than Windows! So it's really hit and miss in my experience.
laurent92 6y ago
Don’t you remember in Windows XP how you had to click on 6 « advanced » dialogs to set the machine IP? And DHCP wasn’t the default on many, many routers at the time. Windows has always been bad at UX, probably because each dialog was the job of a different team.
astura 6y ago
I actually like it better because I just type whatever I'm looking for in the search bar and it brings up the appropriate item, I don't have to go searching. In fact, for something like bluetooth settings I wouldn't even pull up the control panel, just click start and type "bluetooth" then enter (when you see it's brought up the correct item). I remember in the old versions of windows changing environment variables was something that was a bit of a pain paint because it was hidden behind multiple "advanced" dialogs. Now it's real easy, click start type "envi" and hit enter. That actually brings up "System properties" advanced tab and you have to click "environment variables."

hansvm 6y ago

Off-topic, one of the things that surprised me the most when I finally made the jump to Linux (I don't remember anymore which dark pattern finally turned me off of Windows, but it was one too goddamned many) -- the bluetooth support was light-years ahead of anything I'd previously encountered. I was expecting hardware incompatibilities to be way more problematic than they actually were.

benrbray 6y ago
It infuriates me to no end that bluetooth headsets have two modes -- one for listening only, and one for listening+voice, where the latter has absurdly low audio quality. This has been a major source of problems for me, especially on Windows, where I often have to manually switch between the two. I have two Linux laptops. On one, Bluetooth devices endlessly disconnect/reconnect and I gave up entirely. On the other, Bluetooth works flawlessly, better than Windows! So it's really hit and miss in my experience.

laurent92 6y ago

Don’t you remember in Windows XP how you had to click on 6 « advanced » dialogs to set the machine IP? And DHCP wasn’t the default on many, many routers at the time. Windows has always been bad at UX, probably because each dialog was the job of a different team.

astura 6y ago

I actually like it better because I just type whatever I'm looking for in the search bar and it brings up the appropriate item, I don't have to go searching. In fact, for something like bluetooth settings I wouldn't even pull up the control panel, just click start and type "bluetooth" then enter (when you see it's brought up the correct item). I remember in the old versions of windows changing environment variables was something that was a bit of a pain paint because it was hidden behind multiple "advanced" dialogs. Now it's real easy, click start type "envi" and hit enter. That actually brings up "System properties" advanced tab and you have to click "environment variables."