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It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with the

by totony 6y ago

It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it).

LittlePeter 6y ago
I find AOC actually refreshingly principled.
- totony 6y ago
  Is this principled? It seems to me like going against your principles/ideals just to stick it to someone you (usually) disagree with.
  - tolbish 6y ago
    She's actually even more so principled by not taking the insurrection lightly and holding insurrection proponents accountable.
    - totony 6y ago
      How is she keeping him accountable by refusing to work with him? This seems wrong on 2 ways: - It encourages others to do the same; someone doesn't agree with you on an important issue (pro life?) - just refuse to work with them. This furthers the divide in US politics and is (imo) an overall negative. - It hurts her own cause by removing support she already has - is this what a representative is supposed to do?
      - tolbish 6y ago
        Not working with supporters of the deadly insurrection in which people were targeting her is not a mere "difference of political opinion". That's nowhere near the same ballpark.
        totony 6y ago
        >deadly insurrection Although true this is hyperbole. We're not talking about the "deadly protests" for BLM so why did the capitol protest become a "deadly insurrection"? A lot of people are calling for Donald Trump to go to prison/etc; does that mean (if he was still president) he should stop talking to anyone saying so?
        tolbish 6y ago
        You do not appear to be arguing in good faith.
      - rsfern 6y ago
        In the same tweet she says she’ll work with (almost) any republican on this issue. Just not Ted Cruz (and presumably Hawley and the others pushing election disinformation). I think your fist point is making this into something more than it really is.
newen 6y ago
She is forced to do that due to cancel culture in the progressive circles. If she starts agreeing with Ted Cruz or working with Cruz, she will eventually be accused of working with evil fascist Ted Cruz or something similar and be subject to cancellation attempts from her previous supporters. Edit: If the Capitol riot hadn't happened, she would have said some other reason for not working with Cruz. That's just how the cancel culture works in progressive circles.
- southeastern 6y ago
  The much more obvious and likely reason is it's because she was fearing rape and possibly murder just a few weeks ago, when the Capitol was stormed. As it was later revealed, there were people targeting AOC and Pelosi specifically. And those extremists are constantly egged on by Cruz and his ilk. Blaming this on cancel culture is just.. Odd
dragonwriter 6y ago
> It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her That's not “the one time” such agreement has occurred. Here's the bills she's cosponsored with Republicans: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&cosponsors=412804&sponsor_party=Republican https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&c... > she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it). Sure, complicity in a violent, deadly attack on one's workplace (even when it isn't the national Capitol and part of a coup attempt) is the kind of thing most people would just brush off and not let get in the way of working with people: actions have no consequences whatsoever.
- factcheckdec 6y ago
  Complicit isn't quite accurate though, is it?

by totony 6y ago

It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it).

LittlePeter 6y ago

I find AOC actually refreshingly principled.

totony 6y ago
Is this principled? It seems to me like going against your principles/ideals just to stick it to someone you (usually) disagree with.
- tolbish 6y ago
  She's actually even more so principled by not taking the insurrection lightly and holding insurrection proponents accountable.
  - totony 6y ago
    How is she keeping him accountable by refusing to work with him? This seems wrong on 2 ways: - It encourages others to do the same; someone doesn't agree with you on an important issue (pro life?) - just refuse to work with them. This furthers the divide in US politics and is (imo) an overall negative. - It hurts her own cause by removing support she already has - is this what a representative is supposed to do?
    - tolbish 6y ago
      Not working with supporters of the deadly insurrection in which people were targeting her is not a mere "difference of political opinion". That's nowhere near the same ballpark.
      - totony 6y ago
        >deadly insurrection Although true this is hyperbole. We're not talking about the "deadly protests" for BLM so why did the capitol protest become a "deadly insurrection"? A lot of people are calling for Donald Trump to go to prison/etc; does that mean (if he was still president) he should stop talking to anyone saying so?
        tolbish 6y ago
        You do not appear to be arguing in good faith.
    - rsfern 6y ago
      In the same tweet she says she’ll work with (almost) any republican on this issue. Just not Ted Cruz (and presumably Hawley and the others pushing election disinformation). I think your fist point is making this into something more than it really is.

newen 6y ago

She is forced to do that due to cancel culture in the progressive circles. If she starts agreeing with Ted Cruz or working with Cruz, she will eventually be accused of working with evil fascist Ted Cruz or something similar and be subject to cancellation attempts from her previous supporters. Edit: If the Capitol riot hadn't happened, she would have said some other reason for not working with Cruz. That's just how the cancel culture works in progressive circles.

southeastern 6y ago
The much more obvious and likely reason is it's because she was fearing rape and possibly murder just a few weeks ago, when the Capitol was stormed. As it was later revealed, there were people targeting AOC and Pelosi specifically. And those extremists are constantly egged on by Cruz and his ilk. Blaming this on cancel culture is just.. Odd

dragonwriter 6y ago

> It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her That's not “the one time” such agreement has occurred. Here's the bills she's cosponsored with Republicans: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&cosponsors=412804&sponsor_party=Republican https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&c... > she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it). Sure, complicity in a violent, deadly attack on one's workplace (even when it isn't the national Capitol and part of a coup attempt) is the kind of thing most people would just brush off and not let get in the way of working with people: actions have no consequences whatsoever.

factcheckdec 6y ago
Complicit isn't quite accurate though, is it?