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From my perspective, you just flipped the purpose of 1A. Right now you have the right to associate or disassociate with whomever you like (protected classes as
by thephyber 6y ago
From my perspective, you just flipped the purpose of 1A.
Right now you have the right to associate or disassociate with whomever you like (protected classes aside).
In your altered future, the government forces churches to allow atheists and rival religions to be allowed to speak at the church, despite the desires of the owners and congregation. It would effectively be compelled association.
- treeman79 6y agoNonsense. Trouble is when government gives out monopolies, or supporting monopolies they like. Government currently closed side. Government has chosen atheism as its religion. Very hostile toward other religions. Everyone pays for government school, but want to a Christian education, then you have to pay twice.
- rizpanjwani 6y ago>Government has chosen atheism as its religion You're gonna want to provide proof of that claim.
- thephyber 6y agoI find the monopoly issue troubling, but I don’t understand how your proposal fixes it. Government schools aren’t atheist - they are secular. They simply aren’t allowed to teach Christianity because Jews and Muslims would have the same “I have to pay twice” complaint you mentioned. Also, what you say about Christian education is factually wrong. There are plenty of places in the USA where you can find a Christian Charter school or use school vouchers.
- root_axis 6y agoThat's like saying virginity is a fetish. Atheism is not a religion, it's a lack of belief in a supernatural deity.
- BLKNSLVR 6y agoIt's belief in the lack of a supernatural deity. Subtle difference, as required by the topic.
- Igelau 6y agoThat doesn't quite work. I'm not a stamp collector. Does that mean I lack a stamp collection, or do I have a collection of a lack of stamps? If I am asymptomatic, is there a lack of symptoms, or is my symptom the lack thereof?
- labster 6y agoYou are stamp agnostic and symptomatic does not imply belief. Can we get back to talking about stonks now?
- Igelau 6y agoI don't believe in stonks either :)
- Noos 6y agoIf you believe stamp collectors are the source of all evil in the world, and congregate with other anti-stamp collectors to share your common struggle, maybe. It's one thing to not believe in unicorns, it's another to define yourself in opposition to unicorn believers, which many atheists do.
- Igelau 6y agoThat's a good point, and I think it points out the fundamental misunderstanding in the comment I was replying to: conflation of atheism with radical atheism, particularly New Atheism.
- BLKNSLVR 6y agoMy comment didn't mention 'radical' or 'New'. The location of "belief" makes the sentence an accurate description of atheism or not. Adding 'types' in front of the word just continues us down the path of words not really meaning anything anymore. Are radical atheists just atheists that act like dicks about it? Don't call them radical atheists, just call them dicks. Is a New Atheist one that does interpretive dance to explain their belief that there is no god? That's just an unlikely combination of two things, one of which is atheism. Eg. I'm a radical grammarian (a dick when it comes to grammar).
- monkeywork 6y ago>Everyone pays for government school, but want to a Christian education, then you have to pay twice. Work with your government to have you taxes assigned to the Christian school. Here in Ontario Canada when you file your taxes you select if your child is attending catholic school and the catholic school board gets revenue equal to the number of people attending.
- valuearb 6y agoLet me know when churches start paying taxes...
- InitialLastName 6y ago> Government has chosen atheism as its religion. All the cash in my wallet says otherwise.