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Ahh, are you in Quebec? > landlords are allowed to evict if they do sufficient improvements to the property This is a REALLY unusual provision in rent stabili

by ch4s3 6y ago

Ahh, are you in Quebec? > landlords are allowed to evict if they do sufficient improvements to the property This is a REALLY unusual provision in rent stabilization laws in the US and as far as I know the EU which normally don't allow evictions like this and severely cap rent increases for improvements. If you are in Quebec, the RDL is really unique as a form of rent control in that it doesn't set prices or cap increases but rather acts as an arbiter for rent increase disputes. I understand that there are some local criticisms of the system, but I'm not very well versed on the subject. I think most HN comments about rent control are referring the type that exists in SF where prices are more or less locked in place or otherwise set by the government.

sudosysgen 6y ago
The Régie des logements in Québec absolutely does cap price increases, or even forbid them outright some years. It also does extra controls that many countries don't do, such as capping price increases even if the tenant change (the tenant needs to request the former rent, though). Allowing rent increases in the case of renovations is unusual, but not that rare either. That said, it's absolutely not "just a dispute resolution board". It 100% is traditional rent control with capped price increases, on top of the rest.
- ch4s3 6y ago
  I looked to me like they don't set hard caps based on their explanation here[1], but again I'm not overly familiar with the RDL. Can you point me to a better explanation of how it works? I'm quite interested. French language sites are fine. [1]https://www.tal.gouv.qc.ca/en/news/calculation-of-the-2020-rent-increase https://www.tal.gouv.qc.ca/en/news/calculation-of-the-2020-r...
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    There are indeed no hard caps. There is a formula that is used that takes into account various costs, such as heating and electricity as well as improvements made to the property, and using that formula along with the included utilities, a maximum percentage of price increase is calculated. It's generally under inflation. A typical price increase cap might be 1.8%. For cases where the landlord actually asks for a hearing, the average is of around 2.9%. If no major repairs were necessary, you'll see around 1% or increase, maybe a bit more.

by ch4s3 6y ago

sudosysgen 6y ago

The Régie des logements in Québec absolutely does cap price increases, or even forbid them outright some years. It also does extra controls that many countries don't do, such as capping price increases even if the tenant change (the tenant needs to request the former rent, though). Allowing rent increases in the case of renovations is unusual, but not that rare either. That said, it's absolutely not "just a dispute resolution board". It 100% is traditional rent control with capped price increases, on top of the rest.

ch4s3 6y ago
I looked to me like they don't set hard caps based on their explanation here[1], but again I'm not overly familiar with the RDL. Can you point me to a better explanation of how it works? I'm quite interested. French language sites are fine. [1]https://www.tal.gouv.qc.ca/en/news/calculation-of-the-2020-rent-increase https://www.tal.gouv.qc.ca/en/news/calculation-of-the-2020-r...
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  There are indeed no hard caps. There is a formula that is used that takes into account various costs, such as heating and electricity as well as improvements made to the property, and using that formula along with the included utilities, a maximum percentage of price increase is calculated. It's generally under inflation. A typical price increase cap might be 1.8%. For cases where the landlord actually asks for a hearing, the average is of around 2.9%. If no major repairs were necessary, you'll see around 1% or increase, maybe a bit more.