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Ted Cruz agrees: https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1354833603943931905?s=21 https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1354833603943931905?s=21

Ericson2314 6y ago
As they say at https://ncatlab.org/nlab https://ncatlab.org/nlab, "cobipartisan".
bdamm 6y ago
While it is quite satisfying to see Ted Cruz and AOC sometimes agree on issues, it hasn't so far been an indicator of legislative victory.
tehjoker 6y ago
Not so fast: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1354848253729234944 https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1354848253729234944 Cruz's antics nearly got AOC killed, she isn't going to forget that.
- llampx 6y ago
  AOC has no chill
  - totony 6y ago
    It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it).
    - LittlePeter 6y ago
      I find AOC actually refreshingly principled.
      - totony 6y ago
        Is this principled? It seems to me like going against your principles/ideals just to stick it to someone you (usually) disagree with.
        tolbish 6y ago
        She's actually even more so principled by not taking the insurrection lightly and holding insurrection proponents accountable.
        totony 6y ago
        How is she keeping him accountable by refusing to work with him? This seems wrong on 2 ways: - It encourages others to do the same; someone doesn't agree with you on an important issue (pro life?) - just refuse to work with them. This furthers the divide in US politics and is (imo) an overall negative. - It hurts her own cause by removing support she already has - is this what a representative is supposed to do?
        tolbish 6y ago
        Not working with supporters of the deadly insurrection in which people were targeting her is not a mere "difference of political opinion". That's nowhere near the same ballpark.
        totony 6y ago
        >deadly insurrection Although true this is hyperbole. We're not talking about the "deadly protests" for BLM so why did the capitol protest become a "deadly insurrection"? A lot of people are calling for Donald Trump to go to prison/etc; does that mean (if he was still president) he should stop talking to anyone saying so?
        tolbish 6y ago
        You do not appear to be arguing in good faith.
    - newen 6y ago
      She is forced to do that due to cancel culture in the progressive circles. If she starts agreeing with Ted Cruz or working with Cruz, she will eventually be accused of working with evil fascist Ted Cruz or something similar and be subject to cancellation attempts from her previous supporters. Edit: If the Capitol riot hadn't happened, she would have said some other reason for not working with Cruz. That's just how the cancel culture works in progressive circles.
      - southeastern 6y ago
        The much more obvious and likely reason is it's because she was fearing rape and possibly murder just a few weeks ago, when the Capitol was stormed. As it was later revealed, there were people targeting AOC and Pelosi specifically. And those extremists are constantly egged on by Cruz and his ilk. Blaming this on cancel culture is just.. Odd
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her That's not “the one time” such agreement has occurred. Here's the bills she's cosponsored with Republicans: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&cosponsors=412804&sponsor_party=Republican https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&c... > she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it). Sure, complicity in a violent, deadly attack on one's workplace (even when it isn't the national Capitol and part of a coup attempt) is the kind of thing most people would just brush off and not let get in the way of working with people: actions have no consequences whatsoever.
      - factcheckdec 6y ago
        Complicit isn't quite accurate though, is it?
- Darmody 6y ago
  She should be sued for that. She's claiming that Ted Cruz is actually trying to get her killed.
  - okamiueru 6y ago
    She used the past tense. Not sure if there is any problem getting sued though. It's all public record and well known. Not even sure what it would be for, defamation? Not likely when it's pointing out what occurred.
    - Darmody 6y ago
      "Happy to work w/ almost any other GOP that aren’t trying to get me killed." From that I understand Cruz is trying to get her killed, which is a very serious accusation and should not be taken lightly.
      - dragonwriter 6y ago
        No, “any other X not doing Y” indicates that the one being addressed is also an X not doing Y. So, it reads like she thinks Cruz should resign becauss he tried to kill her in the past, but isn't currently trying that, while other GOP members are (or at least may be) still trying to do that.
        Darmody 6y ago
        Yeah, no. If you come to me asking to work together and I tell you no because I don't work with people that are trying to get me killed, it's pretty obvious what I mean.
        dragonwriter 6y ago
        > If you come to me asking to work together and I tell you no because I don't work with people that are trying to get me killed, it's pretty obvious what I mean. But that's not what she said, even as a summary. She said (summarized at the same level): 1. You tried to get me killed recently. 2. So, you need to quit. 3. Still, I am willing to work with almost anyone else in your party who isn't trying to get me killed. Her unwillingness to work with Cruz was expressly predicated on his perceived recent past, not present, efforts to have her killed.

Ericson2314 6y ago

As they say at https://ncatlab.org/nlab https://ncatlab.org/nlab, "cobipartisan".

bdamm 6y ago

While it is quite satisfying to see Ted Cruz and AOC sometimes agree on issues, it hasn't so far been an indicator of legislative victory.

tehjoker 6y ago

Not so fast: https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1354848253729234944 https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1354848253729234944 Cruz's antics nearly got AOC killed, she isn't going to forget that.

llampx 6y ago
AOC has no chill
- totony 6y ago
  It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it).
  - LittlePeter 6y ago
    I find AOC actually refreshingly principled.
    - totony 6y ago
      Is this principled? It seems to me like going against your principles/ideals just to stick it to someone you (usually) disagree with.
      - tolbish 6y ago
        She's actually even more so principled by not taking the insurrection lightly and holding insurrection proponents accountable.
        totony 6y ago
        How is she keeping him accountable by refusing to work with him? This seems wrong on 2 ways: - It encourages others to do the same; someone doesn't agree with you on an important issue (pro life?) - just refuse to work with them. This furthers the divide in US politics and is (imo) an overall negative. - It hurts her own cause by removing support she already has - is this what a representative is supposed to do?
        tolbish 6y ago
        Not working with supporters of the deadly insurrection in which people were targeting her is not a mere "difference of political opinion". That's nowhere near the same ballpark.
        totony 6y ago
        >deadly insurrection Although true this is hyperbole. We're not talking about the "deadly protests" for BLM so why did the capitol protest become a "deadly insurrection"? A lot of people are calling for Donald Trump to go to prison/etc; does that mean (if he was still president) he should stop talking to anyone saying so?
        tolbish 6y ago
        You do not appear to be arguing in good faith.
  - newen 6y ago
    She is forced to do that due to cancel culture in the progressive circles. If she starts agreeing with Ted Cruz or working with Cruz, she will eventually be accused of working with evil fascist Ted Cruz or something similar and be subject to cancellation attempts from her previous supporters. Edit: If the Capitol riot hadn't happened, she would have said some other reason for not working with Cruz. That's just how the cancel culture works in progressive circles.
    - southeastern 6y ago
      The much more obvious and likely reason is it's because she was fearing rape and possibly murder just a few weeks ago, when the Capitol was stormed. As it was later revealed, there were people targeting AOC and Pelosi specifically. And those extremists are constantly egged on by Cruz and his ilk. Blaming this on cancel culture is just.. Odd
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > It's unfortunate that the one time someone from the opposing party agrees with her That's not “the one time” such agreement has occurred. Here's the bills she's cosponsored with Republicans: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&cosponsors=412804&sponsor_party=Republican https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse#congress=116&c... > she calls back on something they don't agree on (and refuses to work with them because of it). Sure, complicity in a violent, deadly attack on one's workplace (even when it isn't the national Capitol and part of a coup attempt) is the kind of thing most people would just brush off and not let get in the way of working with people: actions have no consequences whatsoever.
    - factcheckdec 6y ago
      Complicit isn't quite accurate though, is it?
Darmody 6y ago
She should be sued for that. She's claiming that Ted Cruz is actually trying to get her killed.
- okamiueru 6y ago
  She used the past tense. Not sure if there is any problem getting sued though. It's all public record and well known. Not even sure what it would be for, defamation? Not likely when it's pointing out what occurred.
  - Darmody 6y ago
    "Happy to work w/ almost any other GOP that aren’t trying to get me killed." From that I understand Cruz is trying to get her killed, which is a very serious accusation and should not be taken lightly.
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      No, “any other X not doing Y” indicates that the one being addressed is also an X not doing Y. So, it reads like she thinks Cruz should resign becauss he tried to kill her in the past, but isn't currently trying that, while other GOP members are (or at least may be) still trying to do that.
      - Darmody 6y ago
        Yeah, no. If you come to me asking to work together and I tell you no because I don't work with people that are trying to get me killed, it's pretty obvious what I mean.
        dragonwriter 6y ago
        > If you come to me asking to work together and I tell you no because I don't work with people that are trying to get me killed, it's pretty obvious what I mean. But that's not what she said, even as a summary. She said (summarized at the same level): 1. You tried to get me killed recently. 2. So, you need to quit. 3. Still, I am willing to work with almost anyone else in your party who isn't trying to get me killed. Her unwillingness to work with Cruz was expressly predicated on his perceived recent past, not present, efforts to have her killed.