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You seem very comfortable with the idea of imposing what works for you, your preferences, on others. You might want to think about that some more

by krupan 6y ago

Broken_Hippo 6y ago
You might want to rethink yours. You are arguing for child labor with emotional manipulation (Some 14 year olds - children - will be sad to lose a job) I realize that folks are different. However, In a lot of places and situations, child labor is illegal - and 14 is considered child labor in so many situations. When they do work, it comes with massive restrictions. This is soley because we, as a society, generally feel that the focus should be on school instead of work. If we cannot pay young folks on par with adults, we shouldn't hire them. As a sidenote: I'm guessing that the real reason the school hired them is because they are cheap labor - soft exploitation - and so long as their rate is less than paying a member of the custodial staff (who would have to pick up the slack), they won't be out of a job.
- krupan 6y ago
  You seem to put a lot of weight behind this term, Child Labor. I understand that in the past and in some places still today children were/are essentially treated as slaves, and that’s possibly what you are thinking when you write Child Labor. I agree 100% that that is evil. I assure you that these teenagers are not being mistreated, and there are adults doing this same job with them. Our society has come a long way. No teen spends 100% of their time on school work. Like anyone, they have a price they are willing to trade their time and labor for. Why should they, or anyone not be allowed to make that trade? And yes, it is an emotional argument. We are emotional beings. Doing a useful job and being rewarded for it satisfies those emotions immensely. In addition to that, it teaches things in ways that a classroom simply cannot. In a very real way it is paying them to get some education, as you suggested.

You seem very comfortable with the idea of imposing what works for you, your preferences, on others. You might want to think about that some more

by krupan 6y ago

You seem very comfortable with the idea of imposing what works for you, your preferences, on others. You might want to think about that some more

Broken_Hippo 6y ago

You might want to rethink yours. You are arguing for child labor with emotional manipulation (Some 14 year olds - children - will be sad to lose a job) I realize that folks are different. However, In a lot of places and situations, child labor is illegal - and 14 is considered child labor in so many situations. When they do work, it comes with massive restrictions. This is soley because we, as a society, generally feel that the focus should be on school instead of work. If we cannot pay young folks on par with adults, we shouldn't hire them. As a sidenote: I'm guessing that the real reason the school hired them is because they are cheap labor - soft exploitation - and so long as their rate is less than paying a member of the custodial staff (who would have to pick up the slack), they won't be out of a job.

krupan 6y ago
You seem to put a lot of weight behind this term, Child Labor. I understand that in the past and in some places still today children were/are essentially treated as slaves, and that’s possibly what you are thinking when you write Child Labor. I agree 100% that that is evil. I assure you that these teenagers are not being mistreated, and there are adults doing this same job with them. Our society has come a long way. No teen spends 100% of their time on school work. Like anyone, they have a price they are willing to trade their time and labor for. Why should they, or anyone not be allowed to make that trade? And yes, it is an emotional argument. We are emotional beings. Doing a useful job and being rewarded for it satisfies those emotions immensely. In addition to that, it teaches things in ways that a classroom simply cannot. In a very real way it is paying them to get some education, as you suggested.