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So this is basically Firefox' Tree Style Tabs but less powerful and embedded in a slower UI? The one and only reason I stopped using Vivaldi every time I tried

So this is basically Firefox' Tree Style Tabs but less powerful and embedded in a slower UI? The one and only reason I stopped using Vivaldi every time I tried it is the performance. But it becomes more and more obvious the developers simply have different priorities.

generalizations 6y ago
I wish, but it isn't. There was a request a few years ago for tree style tabs to be implemented in Vivaldi, but I think the dev didn't like the conflict with their own tab layout implementation. Seems to me there's a subset of power users on Firefox just waiting for any other browser to implement tree style tabs.
drcongo 6y ago
I have to keep a Chrome-like browser around just for things like MS Teams that supposedly won't run in anything else, I have Vivaldi and Brave. I hate Brave for the crypto nonsense it shoves in my face among other things, but Vivaldi is so unbelievably slow that I'm forced to use Brave. It boggles my mind that anyone would release something that slow and then never work on that problem
ajtjp 6y ago
I'm curious what area of Vivaldi is perceived as slow. I use Vivaldi at home (on a 9-year-old desktop), and Firefox at work, and the only things that come to mind are tab opening/closing could be better, and some very CSS-heavy animations such as the NYT's map of coronavirus's spread from Wuhan are much better on Gecko than Blink. But day to day, I have no complaints about performance from either. Then again, I also use uBlock Origin... perhaps Vivaldi is slow without it. I'll also admit that theoretically I'd expect Vivaldi's UI to be slower due to being based on web technologies instead of native, but I can't say I can perceive a difference except in edge cases.
- rasz 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25951928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25951928 Tab handling was at least x1000 slower than Chrome last time I tested. It got dramatically slower in the last few snapshots and the official 3.6 Stable build. Its not just tabs, address bar handling is totally broken, opening new tab and starting to type quickly will result in eaten letters. Opening new tab, clicking CTRL-F and starting to type will again open with ~1 second delay and lost letters. Then we get into broken javascript causality https://jsfiddle.net/rasz_pl/v36nozsw/ https://jsfiddle.net/rasz_pl/v36nozsw/ open in normal browser and Vivaldi, Vivaldi address bar handling code is overriding scrollTop with delayed location.hash update.

generalizations 6y ago

I wish, but it isn't. There was a request a few years ago for tree style tabs to be implemented in Vivaldi, but I think the dev didn't like the conflict with their own tab layout implementation. Seems to me there's a subset of power users on Firefox just waiting for any other browser to implement tree style tabs.

drcongo 6y ago

I have to keep a Chrome-like browser around just for things like MS Teams that supposedly won't run in anything else, I have Vivaldi and Brave. I hate Brave for the crypto nonsense it shoves in my face among other things, but Vivaldi is so unbelievably slow that I'm forced to use Brave. It boggles my mind that anyone would release something that slow and then never work on that problem

ajtjp 6y ago

I'm curious what area of Vivaldi is perceived as slow. I use Vivaldi at home (on a 9-year-old desktop), and Firefox at work, and the only things that come to mind are tab opening/closing could be better, and some very CSS-heavy animations such as the NYT's map of coronavirus's spread from Wuhan are much better on Gecko than Blink. But day to day, I have no complaints about performance from either. Then again, I also use uBlock Origin... perhaps Vivaldi is slow without it. I'll also admit that theoretically I'd expect Vivaldi's UI to be slower due to being based on web technologies instead of native, but I can't say I can perceive a difference except in edge cases.

rasz 6y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25951928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25951928 Tab handling was at least x1000 slower than Chrome last time I tested. It got dramatically slower in the last few snapshots and the official 3.6 Stable build. Its not just tabs, address bar handling is totally broken, opening new tab and starting to type quickly will result in eaten letters. Opening new tab, clicking CTRL-F and starting to type will again open with ~1 second delay and lost letters. Then we get into broken javascript causality https://jsfiddle.net/rasz_pl/v36nozsw/ https://jsfiddle.net/rasz_pl/v36nozsw/ open in normal browser and Vivaldi, Vivaldi address bar handling code is overriding scrollTop with delayed location.hash update.