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>the QAnons and the AOC wing of the Democrats I haven't seen this definition of a subset of Democrats before. Are you using support for AOC to imply "farther o

>the QAnons and the AOC wing of the Democrats I haven't seen this definition of a subset of Democrats before. Are you using support for AOC to imply "farther out than most Democrats"? I thought the vast majority, if not all, Democrats liked her, but I rarely read social media.

iamdbtoo 6y ago
She's part of the Democratic Socialist part of the party and their policies are definitely not mainstream within the party as a whole.
- RIMR 6y ago
  This is correct. The Democratic party has no interest whatsoever in helping people.
- sidlls 6y ago
  She talks the talk, but I haven't seen much walking the walk yet out of her or any of the justice democrats, really. Time will tell on that point. If I were a betting man I'd put money on them becoming shepherds for the veal pen.
  - iamdbtoo 6y ago
    I never understand what people mean by this. Are you following all of her work? What exactly are you expecting? She's done quite a bit of work, but as you can expect, trying to implement policies you really believe in that aren't popular with the population on the whole is an incredibly difficult task.
    - sidlls 6y ago
      Yes, I follow her words and actions that are publicly available, as I do many politicians who might be an ally to my agenda. I take issue with the level of effort behind what she’s “tried,” and I’m not sure she’s had enough time to do enough anyway. But I’m skeptical she will make much headway, and based on the way Obama’s administration effectively sidelined anything to the left of his Big Corp friendly policies I don’t think that’s an unreasonable skepticism.
      - iamdbtoo 6y ago
        > She talks the talk, but I haven't seen much walking the walk That's not skepticism. You've already made up your mind.
dagw 6y ago
I thought the vast majority, if not all, Democrats liked her While she as a person seems, on the whole, to be well liked, some of her more "extreme" policies don't have wide support within the party.
- sidlls 6y ago
  The party is something like 30% of the population (recent changes due to Trump effects notwithstanding). The leadership of the party are basically republicans, but with nicer sounding rhetoric on identity politics issues. So of course her "extreme" policies don't have wide support. Republicans oppose policies that help anybody but themselves and the 1%, and even though some of them are registered democratic, Republicans still control both parties.
  - Clubber 6y ago
    Corporate interests control both parties. The parties are just a false illusion of choice.
    - sidlls 6y ago
      Precisely. They use different wedge issue tactics to keep the populace divided and mollified, but the end game is in service of their own interests.

iamdbtoo 6y ago

She's part of the Democratic Socialist part of the party and their policies are definitely not mainstream within the party as a whole.

RIMR 6y ago
This is correct. The Democratic party has no interest whatsoever in helping people.
sidlls 6y ago
She talks the talk, but I haven't seen much walking the walk yet out of her or any of the justice democrats, really. Time will tell on that point. If I were a betting man I'd put money on them becoming shepherds for the veal pen.
- iamdbtoo 6y ago
  I never understand what people mean by this. Are you following all of her work? What exactly are you expecting? She's done quite a bit of work, but as you can expect, trying to implement policies you really believe in that aren't popular with the population on the whole is an incredibly difficult task.
  - sidlls 6y ago
    Yes, I follow her words and actions that are publicly available, as I do many politicians who might be an ally to my agenda. I take issue with the level of effort behind what she’s “tried,” and I’m not sure she’s had enough time to do enough anyway. But I’m skeptical she will make much headway, and based on the way Obama’s administration effectively sidelined anything to the left of his Big Corp friendly policies I don’t think that’s an unreasonable skepticism.
    - iamdbtoo 6y ago
      > She talks the talk, but I haven't seen much walking the walk That's not skepticism. You've already made up your mind.

dagw 6y ago

I thought the vast majority, if not all, Democrats liked her While she as a person seems, on the whole, to be well liked, some of her more "extreme" policies don't have wide support within the party.

sidlls 6y ago
The party is something like 30% of the population (recent changes due to Trump effects notwithstanding). The leadership of the party are basically republicans, but with nicer sounding rhetoric on identity politics issues. So of course her "extreme" policies don't have wide support. Republicans oppose policies that help anybody but themselves and the 1%, and even though some of them are registered democratic, Republicans still control both parties.
- Clubber 6y ago
  Corporate interests control both parties. The parties are just a false illusion of choice.
  - sidlls 6y ago
    Precisely. They use different wedge issue tactics to keep the populace divided and mollified, but the end game is in service of their own interests.