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This lawsuit is disgusting. The driver was doing 116mph in a 25mph zone. That was the cause of death. Nothing else. If you are doing nearly FIVE TIMES the speed

by Bud 6y ago

This lawsuit is disgusting. The driver was doing 116mph in a 25mph zone. That was the cause of death. Nothing else. If you are doing nearly FIVE TIMES the speed limit, well, pardon me, but you're asking for death. It's a miracle he didn't kill anyone else. He also hit 3 other cars, 2 trees, and rammed into a stone wall.

grumple 6y ago
Amazing that this article doesn't tell us that, you have to look at other referenced sources to find that detail.
ryanmarsh 6y ago
FTA: Awan, a 48-year-old anesthesiologist and father of five, leased the Model S for two reasons, family attorney Stuart Grossman said: He was environmentally sensitive and safety conscious. I'd say his family got a damn good lawyer, and by that I mean shameless.
svrtknst 6y ago
Be that as it may, it's possible for the driver to be a lethally reckless idiot and for Tesla to have dangerous door handles.
thatjoeoverthr 6y ago
All of that can be true, and irrelevant. If the car has a design that impedes rescue, it will impede the rescue of people who have done nothing wrong. Bad man is dead, buta lawsuit can serve as a nice smack to remind car builders about safe design.
arghwhat 6y ago
That this person committed crimes doesn't change that more reliable mechanisms should be preferred or required. That crimes were committed doesn't mean he should burn to death. The legal system should pick the punishment. There's a reason you're not allowed to have pure drive-by-wire either, requiring mechanical connection to brake and steering. While doors are generally less of a concern, but it's still nice to know that the door handle works when the electronics do not. Such as when there is a fire. Braking a window is harder than you might think if you don't carry a dedicated tool for it. (And no, while this guy was a criminal, that does not mean all fires are by criminals, nor that criminals should burn to death)
pelliphant 6y ago
I don't know anything besides what I just read in the article. Sure, if you are going 5x speed limit and then crash, I wouldn't blame anyone but the driver for that, I could also understand that it could be reasonable to expect a fire in that situation. But this article is about the doors, if you are unable to open the door without a working battery, that is indeed a problem...
tim333 6y ago
I think you might have it mixed with another lawsuit where a Tesla was doing 116mph in a 25mph zone? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6571051/Parents-teen-killed-Florida-Tesla-crash-sue-company.html?ito=social-facebook https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6571051/Parents-tee... Two teenagers in that one.
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amadiver 6y ago
I think that was another incident from 2018? https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fort-lauderdale/fl-sb-lauderdale-fatal-tesla-ntsb-20180626-story.html https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fort-lauderdale/f...

by Bud 6y ago

grumple 6y ago

Amazing that this article doesn't tell us that, you have to look at other referenced sources to find that detail.

ryanmarsh 6y ago

FTA: Awan, a 48-year-old anesthesiologist and father of five, leased the Model S for two reasons, family attorney Stuart Grossman said: He was environmentally sensitive and safety conscious. I'd say his family got a damn good lawyer, and by that I mean shameless.

svrtknst 6y ago

Be that as it may, it's possible for the driver to be a lethally reckless idiot and for Tesla to have dangerous door handles.

thatjoeoverthr 6y ago

All of that can be true, and irrelevant. If the car has a design that impedes rescue, it will impede the rescue of people who have done nothing wrong. Bad man is dead, buta lawsuit can serve as a nice smack to remind car builders about safe design.

arghwhat 6y ago

That this person committed crimes doesn't change that more reliable mechanisms should be preferred or required. That crimes were committed doesn't mean he should burn to death. The legal system should pick the punishment. There's a reason you're not allowed to have pure drive-by-wire either, requiring mechanical connection to brake and steering. While doors are generally less of a concern, but it's still nice to know that the door handle works when the electronics do not. Such as when there is a fire. Braking a window is harder than you might think if you don't carry a dedicated tool for it. (And no, while this guy was a criminal, that does not mean all fires are by criminals, nor that criminals should burn to death)

pelliphant 6y ago

I don't know anything besides what I just read in the article. Sure, if you are going 5x speed limit and then crash, I wouldn't blame anyone but the driver for that, I could also understand that it could be reasonable to expect a fire in that situation. But this article is about the doors, if you are unable to open the door without a working battery, that is indeed a problem...

tim333 6y ago

I think you might have it mixed with another lawsuit where a Tesla was doing 116mph in a 25mph zone? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6571051/Parents-teen-killed-Florida-Tesla-crash-sue-company.html?ito=social-facebook https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6571051/Parents-tee... Two teenagers in that one.

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amadiver 6y ago

I think that was another incident from 2018? https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fort-lauderdale/fl-sb-lauderdale-fatal-tesla-ntsb-20180626-story.html https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fort-lauderdale/f...