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It's a police tactic called Kettling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling

by agilob 6y ago

sircastor 6y ago
I’m kind of embarrassed to say it never occurred to me that the goal of kettling was to encourage a non-violent protest to violence. Thinking on it, it makes a sort of sick sense. If the people are actually violent the rules go out the window and you can use whatever force you deem necessary. And the police always consider themselves the superior group.
- WJW 6y ago
  The link to the Wikipedia article explicitly mentions that is was originally designed to just coop up a crowd for several hours so that they get bored and the situation de-escalates. This was seen as a more effective and humane tactic than dispersing rioting crowds using fear by doing police charges. That said, 1990s era European protests (when the theory behind kettling was developed) were rather less violent than current day American protests, helped in no small part of course by the relative prevalence of firearms in American society and their higher distrust of police forces (again, compared to Europeans. Atm distrust between police and protesters in the USA seems to be in a vicious downward spiral where the actions of both group confirm the prejudices of the other group)
- maxerickson 6y ago
  Lots of people call it a riot if a crowd does not immediately disperse when ordered to do so. Like super immediately.
- pjc50 6y ago
  Kettling is one of the less provocative tactics, but it's intended as a collective punishment of the kettled: extra-legal detention for a period of hours with no food, water or toilet facilities. Police can and will provoke non-violent protests to violence. In a few cases (see the UK's "spycops" scandal) police infiltrators will organise protests so they can arrest dissidents.
- ihsw 6y ago
  Inter arma enim silent leges
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It's a police tactic called Kettling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling

by agilob 6y ago

It's a police tactic called Kettling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling

I’m kind of embarrassed to say it never occurred to me that the goal of kettling was to encourage a non-violent protest to violence. Thinking on it, it makes a sort of sick sense. If the people are actually violent the rules go out the window and you can use whatever force you deem necessary. And the police always consider themselves the superior group.

WJW 6y ago
The link to the Wikipedia article explicitly mentions that is was originally designed to just coop up a crowd for several hours so that they get bored and the situation de-escalates. This was seen as a more effective and humane tactic than dispersing rioting crowds using fear by doing police charges. That said, 1990s era European protests (when the theory behind kettling was developed) were rather less violent than current day American protests, helped in no small part of course by the relative prevalence of firearms in American society and their higher distrust of police forces (again, compared to Europeans. Atm distrust between police and protesters in the USA seems to be in a vicious downward spiral where the actions of both group confirm the prejudices of the other group)
maxerickson 6y ago
Lots of people call it a riot if a crowd does not immediately disperse when ordered to do so. Like super immediately.
pjc50 6y ago
Kettling is one of the less provocative tactics, but it's intended as a collective punishment of the kettled: extra-legal detention for a period of hours with no food, water or toilet facilities. Police can and will provoke non-violent protests to violence. In a few cases (see the UK's "spycops" scandal) police infiltrators will organise protests so they can arrest dissidents.
ihsw 6y ago
Inter arma enim silent leges

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