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Was it connected to something important/used? I have a suspicion that without much traffic squatters will give up on it eventually.

rurban 6y ago
It hosted cperl and rperl, which are important. Perl5, as you might not know is not developed anymore, it's only maintained into oblivion, getting worse and worse over time. 20 years no new features, only design mistakes over mistakes piling up. perl11 provided the continuation of Perl development, but the maintainers in their tunnel vision do not agree (yet). Almost everything they did in the last 6 years came from cperl, but it's still only 10%. Now it's on perl11.github.io When the squatters give up, fine, but GitHub served us well over the years. Better than everyone else, esp. Google.
- sigzero 6y ago
  Uh Perl 5 is in ACTIVE development and has gotten new features. Everything you said about Perl 5 is wrong. Perl 7 (skipping Perl 6 obviously) is on the table and being talked about and Perl 5.34.0 is going to be released in a couple months setting the stage for Perl 7.
  - mst 6y ago
    reini has a ... unique ... perspective on perl development, which is probably related to how he got banned from the p5p mailing list for repeatedly calling people incompetent without giving actual technical reasons against the patches. cperl is an interesting fork with a lot of good ideas, but his tendency to submit patches to core modules to work around cperl bugs without full explanation and then yell at the people asking for justification and actual tests for those changes meant that such patches don't tend to actually end up applied. Given reini is undeniably brilliant when at his best, I consider this deeply unfortunate, but I've tried to explain the concept of "even if you're sure you're right, you need to actually convince people of that" multiple times both online and in person and apparently not got through, so at this point I can only suggest that people who're interested in his brilliance follow their code for themselves and submit the interesting stuff as patches. A great shame, but things are what they are.

rurban 6y ago

It hosted cperl and rperl, which are important. Perl5, as you might not know is not developed anymore, it's only maintained into oblivion, getting worse and worse over time. 20 years no new features, only design mistakes over mistakes piling up. perl11 provided the continuation of Perl development, but the maintainers in their tunnel vision do not agree (yet). Almost everything they did in the last 6 years came from cperl, but it's still only 10%. Now it's on perl11.github.io When the squatters give up, fine, but GitHub served us well over the years. Better than everyone else, esp. Google.

sigzero 6y ago
Uh Perl 5 is in ACTIVE development and has gotten new features. Everything you said about Perl 5 is wrong. Perl 7 (skipping Perl 6 obviously) is on the table and being talked about and Perl 5.34.0 is going to be released in a couple months setting the stage for Perl 7.
- mst 6y ago
  reini has a ... unique ... perspective on perl development, which is probably related to how he got banned from the p5p mailing list for repeatedly calling people incompetent without giving actual technical reasons against the patches. cperl is an interesting fork with a lot of good ideas, but his tendency to submit patches to core modules to work around cperl bugs without full explanation and then yell at the people asking for justification and actual tests for those changes meant that such patches don't tend to actually end up applied. Given reini is undeniably brilliant when at his best, I consider this deeply unfortunate, but I've tried to explain the concept of "even if you're sure you're right, you need to actually convince people of that" multiple times both online and in person and apparently not got through, so at this point I can only suggest that people who're interested in his brilliance follow their code for themselves and submit the interesting stuff as patches. A great shame, but things are what they are.