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That’s way too expensive. My $80/month server bill can support millions of users per month but would only get me <300 MAUs on this service? Edit: my guess is I

That’s way too expensive. My $80/month server bill can support millions of users per month but would only get me <300 MAUs on this service? Edit: my guess is I misunderstood who they are targeting with this. Thought they were targeting developers who want to integrate Jitsi with an existing product.

saghul 6y ago
Millions of users per month doing video conferencing?
- owens99 6y ago
  No. I meant for a normal SPA or CRUD app without video.
  - saghul 6y ago
    Then what are you trying to compare? The pricing includes all video traffic relaying, which is the non-trivial part of these types of setups.
- jamespo 6y ago
  Of course not
jrh206 6y ago
Personally, I feel like this is really generous pricing Compare it to, e.g. Slack (https://app.slack.com/plans/T01JN93179R?geocode=en-gb https://app.slack.com/plans/T01JN93179R?geocode=en-gb) or Zoom (https://zoom.us/pricing https://zoom.us/pricing) Notwithstanding any accounting issues raised by worble, which I'm sure will be ironed out over time
- glaive123 6y ago
  They must be targeting people who just want to use this for internal purposes, rather than developers who want to integrate Jitsi with an existing product.
  - jrh206 6y ago
    Yes, exactly. This offering is a Zoom alternative
  - emcho 6y ago
    (Jitsi Dev here) Most of our customers are actually developers and that's how the service is intended. Hope this helps
- eznzt 6y ago
  This is like people saying fastmail pricing is reasonable because other providers gyp you too.
  - JacobSuperslav 6y ago
    it isn't? i used it for years and been very happy.
    - eznzt 6y ago
      The marginal cost of the service they provide is like 10% of what they charge, or even less.
      - tomashubelbauer 6y ago
        Do you go to restaurants expecting to pay only the total cost of ingredients for your meal? Fastmail provides an excellent service and if anything I feel as though I underpay for what I'm getting. I'm happy to know they have a healthy margin to pay their developers from and improve the product.
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        eznzt 6y ago
        I expect to pay a reasonable price. Being overcharged by 90% is not reasonable.
        marcinzm 6y ago
        Restaurants charge 4-5x the cost of ingredients. So I take it you never eat out?
        eznzt 6y ago
        I have worked in one and no they don't. Most restaurants barely break even by the end of the month once you factor in all costs (like employees, rent...), which I did in the example of fastmail.
cryptonym 6y ago
Not the best comparison. Probably depends on your use-case. How much does it cost to setup and maintain the platform (actually reachable from end users) 24/24 at 99.99 ? Global infra ? Dealing with HIPAA/GDPR ?

saghul 6y ago

Millions of users per month doing video conferencing?

owens99 6y ago
No. I meant for a normal SPA or CRUD app without video.
- saghul 6y ago
  Then what are you trying to compare? The pricing includes all video traffic relaying, which is the non-trivial part of these types of setups.
jamespo 6y ago
Of course not

jrh206 6y ago

Personally, I feel like this is really generous pricing Compare it to, e.g. Slack (https://app.slack.com/plans/T01JN93179R?geocode=en-gb https://app.slack.com/plans/T01JN93179R?geocode=en-gb) or Zoom (https://zoom.us/pricing https://zoom.us/pricing) Notwithstanding any accounting issues raised by worble, which I'm sure will be ironed out over time

glaive123 6y ago
They must be targeting people who just want to use this for internal purposes, rather than developers who want to integrate Jitsi with an existing product.
- jrh206 6y ago
  Yes, exactly. This offering is a Zoom alternative
- emcho 6y ago
  (Jitsi Dev here) Most of our customers are actually developers and that's how the service is intended. Hope this helps
eznzt 6y ago
This is like people saying fastmail pricing is reasonable because other providers gyp you too.
- JacobSuperslav 6y ago
  it isn't? i used it for years and been very happy.
  - eznzt 6y ago
    The marginal cost of the service they provide is like 10% of what they charge, or even less.
    - tomashubelbauer 6y ago
      Do you go to restaurants expecting to pay only the total cost of ingredients for your meal? Fastmail provides an excellent service and if anything I feel as though I underpay for what I'm getting. I'm happy to know they have a healthy margin to pay their developers from and improve the product.
      - deleted 6y ago
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      - eznzt 6y ago
        I expect to pay a reasonable price. Being overcharged by 90% is not reasonable.
        marcinzm 6y ago
        Restaurants charge 4-5x the cost of ingredients. So I take it you never eat out?
        eznzt 6y ago
        I have worked in one and no they don't. Most restaurants barely break even by the end of the month once you factor in all costs (like employees, rent...), which I did in the example of fastmail.

cryptonym 6y ago

Not the best comparison. Probably depends on your use-case. How much does it cost to setup and maintain the platform (actually reachable from end users) 24/24 at 99.99 ? Global infra ? Dealing with HIPAA/GDPR ?