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The title is a bit misleading, because you could infer that she will be deported based only on the thread she wrote. But, reading the article, she had a "visit

by kuu 6y ago

The title is a bit misleading, because you could infer that she will be deported based only on the thread she wrote. But, reading the article, she had a "visitor visa" and she's suspected of making profit by "selling her e-book and putting up consultation fees on traveling".

xenocratus 6y ago
It does say that she "unsettled the public" by saying "Bali [is] queer-friendly and suggesting that foreigners can enter Indonesia during the pandemic"
- kuu 6y ago
  “The concerned foreign national is suspected to have done business by selling her e-book and putting up consultation fees on traveling to Bali, which means she can be subject to sanctions according to the 2011 Immigration Law,” the statement also said, explaining that those actions mean Gray has violated the purpose of her stay permit. It also says what you wrote, but that's not the official reason for kicking her (of course, it may be why they investigate her in first place and the reason for prosecution, that's open for interpretation but I don't know the details)
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arkitaip 6y ago
You really believe that she got deported over what probably amounted to a tiny income?
- mxfh 6y ago
  Yes. The US is even more strict with this. The classic is getting deported or being denied entry for doing private au pair arrangements on vistor visa. see also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5864427 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5864427
02020202 6y ago
makes no sense. she is not working for a local company nor is being employed through local labour laws. this cannot be a reason for being kicked out of the country. they mentioned she promoted lgbt and indonesia is a muslim country so i would think it was more about that than anything else. just lazy journalism.
- CodesInChaos 6y ago
  Why would remote work for a foreign company not be subject to local law and require a work visa? While few countries will care if you answer the occasional work email while on vacation, living there for months while working remote is problematic.
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by kuu 6y ago

xenocratus 6y ago

It does say that she "unsettled the public" by saying "Bali [is] queer-friendly and suggesting that foreigners can enter Indonesia during the pandemic"

kuu 6y ago
“The concerned foreign national is suspected to have done business by selling her e-book and putting up consultation fees on traveling to Bali, which means she can be subject to sanctions according to the 2011 Immigration Law,” the statement also said, explaining that those actions mean Gray has violated the purpose of her stay permit. It also says what you wrote, but that's not the official reason for kicking her (of course, it may be why they investigate her in first place and the reason for prosecution, that's open for interpretation but I don't know the details)
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arkitaip 6y ago

You really believe that she got deported over what probably amounted to a tiny income?

mxfh 6y ago
Yes. The US is even more strict with this. The classic is getting deported or being denied entry for doing private au pair arrangements on vistor visa. see also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5864427 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5864427

02020202 6y ago

makes no sense. she is not working for a local company nor is being employed through local labour laws. this cannot be a reason for being kicked out of the country. they mentioned she promoted lgbt and indonesia is a muslim country so i would think it was more about that than anything else. just lazy journalism.

CodesInChaos 6y ago
Why would remote work for a foreign company not be subject to local law and require a work visa? While few countries will care if you answer the occasional work email while on vacation, living there for months while working remote is problematic.

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