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And yet he had children. Having just one child increases your climate footprint beyond your control -even if it's zero otherwise. Besides that, beyond his (out

And yet he had children. Having just one child increases your climate footprint beyond your control -even if it's zero otherwise. Besides that, beyond his (outdoor toilet & food) masochism he is a massive hypocrite like EVERY SINGLE person that publicly whines about climate change: Unibody macbook, car, christmas lights, another macbook, iPhone, wait a second... is this a god damn amazon box in the background? Yes it is! So anyways, unless you don't have children, stop pretending you really care about bobcats and your climate footprint.

addicted 6y ago
The reality is that they can achieve a better footprint by simply packing their bags and moving back to Manhattan. Livein in an apartment instead of a house with a backyard, and largely using public transport on a daily basis will do far more to reduce their carbon output than the steps they’ve taken.
hyko 6y ago
Having just one child increases your climate footprint beyond your control Unless they invent a cheap fusion reactor. People don’t just produce pollution; they produce ideas as well.
- fsflover 6y ago
  It will take at least 30 years for a child to invent a fusion reactor. It will be too late.
  - hyko 6y ago
    Says who? The need for clean and plentiful energy supplies will likely be greater in 2051 than 2021. It’s not like we’re going to turn them down because ‘it’s too late’. Besides, a child prodigy could probably come up with a design in something like 10-20 years!
_jon_ 6y ago
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white I feel we are all hypocrites when it comes to values. I don't think slave labor is a good thing but I am sure that I, living in the West, have benefitted from historical slavery and continue to benefit from thinly-disguised slavery in sweatshops/factories far away from me. Should we just bring back slavery everywhere? The options are not "become a monk" or "give up and take everything you can". We can all do something to help and/or (probably more effective) lobby/vote for systemic change but none of us will ever be perfect.

addicted 6y ago

The reality is that they can achieve a better footprint by simply packing their bags and moving back to Manhattan. Livein in an apartment instead of a house with a backyard, and largely using public transport on a daily basis will do far more to reduce their carbon output than the steps they’ve taken.

hyko 6y ago

Having just one child increases your climate footprint beyond your control Unless they invent a cheap fusion reactor. People don’t just produce pollution; they produce ideas as well.

fsflover 6y ago
It will take at least 30 years for a child to invent a fusion reactor. It will be too late.
- hyko 6y ago
  Says who? The need for clean and plentiful energy supplies will likely be greater in 2051 than 2021. It’s not like we’re going to turn them down because ‘it’s too late’. Besides, a child prodigy could probably come up with a design in something like 10-20 years!

_jon_ 6y ago

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white I feel we are all hypocrites when it comes to values. I don't think slave labor is a good thing but I am sure that I, living in the West, have benefitted from historical slavery and continue to benefit from thinly-disguised slavery in sweatshops/factories far away from me. Should we just bring back slavery everywhere? The options are not "become a monk" or "give up and take everything you can". We can all do something to help and/or (probably more effective) lobby/vote for systemic change but none of us will ever be perfect.