> allowing that "the web" is just arbitrary 'stuff' at URLs It's not. The majority is just textual content I want to read. Possibly with a few images. I don't

> allowing that "the web" is just arbitrary 'stuff' at URLs It's not. The majority is just textual content I want to read. Possibly with a few images. I don't need Javascript for that. And being forced to use Javascript for it is the exact problem. For the minority (something clever that requires user interaction beyond reading text and looking at pictures, this "non-standarized", maybe even "proprietary" stuff) Javascript is just fine. But don't force me to use Javascript for the rest.