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> you don't get to hang out with your friends anymore Yeah you do, just not in someone else's space. Like if you want to bellow out some Klingon opera, you ca

> you don't get to hang out with your friends anymore Yeah you do, just not in someone else's space. Like if you want to bellow out some Klingon opera, you can, but they're gonna throw you out of Tesco. Is "my house, my rules" really so hard to understand?

TeMPOraL 6y ago
> Is "my house, my rules" really so hard to understand? People are waking up to the bait&switch the on-line platforms are. They do everything they say to pretend they're the public square, short of saying it, but when push comes to shove, they reveal themselves as private owners with an agenda. What's doubly annoying is that governments worldwide decided to participate. When politicians' primary channel of communicating with their constituents/subjects is through Twitter, you could morally argue that it should be treated as public square. That one is on the politicians though.
hoseja 6y ago
Surely you can't be serious after what happened to Parler. You just can't period, short of building your own infrastructure.
- midasuni 6y ago
  Live by the cloud, die by the cloud.
- capableweb 6y ago
  Parler didn't go down because it's impossible to host platforms without getting taken down. Parler got taken down because they went with hosting providers who have proven time and time again they are not independent platform providers who just follow the law, they are platform providers with opinions that will act on their opinions if they feel like it in the morning. If Parler wanted, they could have gone a different route and survived without any issues.
- grey_earthling 6y ago
  I agree there ought to be publicly-owned infrastructure. But the infrastructure we have is privately-owned, so yeah, the owners can do what they like. We'll never get rid of greedy quasi-monopolies unless we let them do a crap job so that people demand alternatives. This is how market capitalism is supposed to work. (And similarly, we get rid of market capitalism by letting it demonstrate that it just doesn't work very well.)

TeMPOraL 6y ago

> Is "my house, my rules" really so hard to understand? People are waking up to the bait&switch the on-line platforms are. They do everything they say to pretend they're the public square, short of saying it, but when push comes to shove, they reveal themselves as private owners with an agenda. What's doubly annoying is that governments worldwide decided to participate. When politicians' primary channel of communicating with their constituents/subjects is through Twitter, you could morally argue that it should be treated as public square. That one is on the politicians though.

hoseja 6y ago

Surely you can't be serious after what happened to Parler. You just can't period, short of building your own infrastructure.

midasuni 6y ago
Live by the cloud, die by the cloud.
capableweb 6y ago
Parler didn't go down because it's impossible to host platforms without getting taken down. Parler got taken down because they went with hosting providers who have proven time and time again they are not independent platform providers who just follow the law, they are platform providers with opinions that will act on their opinions if they feel like it in the morning. If Parler wanted, they could have gone a different route and survived without any issues.
grey_earthling 6y ago
I agree there ought to be publicly-owned infrastructure. But the infrastructure we have is privately-owned, so yeah, the owners can do what they like. We'll never get rid of greedy quasi-monopolies unless we let them do a crap job so that people demand alternatives. This is how market capitalism is supposed to work. (And similarly, we get rid of market capitalism by letting it demonstrate that it just doesn't work very well.)