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> immature Get your point across without stomping a category of person.

• remarkEon 6y ago
  I'm curious, do people who get upset at this word never learn classical piano? Because, well, you're going to encounter that word quite frequently if you do.
  • jeofken 6y ago
    It’s also the common way to refer to viola players in the violin community
• atoav 6y ago
  A category of person? Being immature means you behave immature. Scolding someone for behaviour is very different than scolding them for something they can't change about them selves (e.g. like where they have been born). Usually we also factor in age when calling someone immature. So if someone calls you immature, they mean "immature given your age", so it is certainly different from e.g. hating on all kids, teenagers or old people.
  • cheph 6y ago
    > Being immature means you behave immature Immature: Not fully formed or developed; not grown [1] It depends on what sense you use it in, just like the r-word. > Scolding someone for behaviour is very different than scolding them for something they can't change about them selves (e.g. like where they have been born). Literally what the r-word controversy is about. Glad you finally get it. Except of course if you think that someone was being scolded for having mental deficiency or specifically an IQ below 70 or something, which I doubt and which I would agree would be just as uncouth as scolding an immature person (in the sense of not being fully developed or grown) for being immature as they can't change that about themselves. [1]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/immature#Adjective https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/immature#Adjective
    • atoav 6y ago
      > Literally what the r-word controversy is about. Glad you finally get it. Huh, are you confusing me with someone here? I argued precisely that in this very thread. As someone who grew up knowing people whose relatives were disabled I think of the r-word (and the German equivalent, English is not my first language) as horrible. Most people who use it are ignorant to what it means to people who have to live with it every day. Which means it is even worse if one thinks about it and goes like "yeah I understand why they hate it, but I am still gonna use it", because then they are not ignorant but malicious.
      • cheph 6y ago
        > I argued precisely that in this very thread. How is it okay to you to use "immature" and not the r-word? Both could refer to a category of person based on something they can't change about them selves, and both are in most cases not used to refer to said category. > As someone who grew up knowing people whose relatives were disabled I think of the r-word (and the German equivalent, English is not my first language) as horrible. You think children like being called immature? > Most people who use it are ignorant to what it means to people who have to live with it every day. Most people who call other people immature also has long since forgotten the anxiety and troubles that come with being an immature human being. > "yeah I understand why they hate it, but I am still gonna use it", because then they are not ignorant but malicious. As long as you feel the same about calling people immature, idiots, or anything else that could also be misinterpreted to refer to category of person based on something they can't change about them selves.
  • uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 6y ago
    Absolutely fire retardent.
• eecc 6y ago
  Exactly, at least they didn’t use “childish” as a slur to condemn this behavior they consider inappropriate. Children have a significant inner world that deserves respect... /s