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Joking among friends using slurs is not appropriate in my eyes. Doesn’t matter if the slur is based on neurodiversity, race, age, gender or something else.

DiggyJohnson 6y ago
I just cannot understand this take, genuinely. How can you know what is a slur and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood? What if...anything really? How on earth would you take action on this point, besides teaching our children to be kind, thoughtful, and curious.
- joubert 6y ago
  > How can you know what is a slur and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood? How can you know what is an insult and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood? How can you know what is a threat and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood?
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Kranar 6y ago
People of various backgrounds often refer to themselves or close friends of theirs by what would otherwise be offensive slurs. That goes for black people, LGBT people, women, Asians, Jews, heck even white people often refer to themselves or another white person they are close with using a slur. There is actually evidence that people who refer to one another using slurs that would otherwise be offensive do so to strengthen social bonds with each other and there's some interesting game theory for why this is the case. It's also quite common among comedians and other entertainers to make fun of their own ethnicity using slurs or use slurs in various performances. You personally may not find it appropriate and that's a subjective point of view that you are entitled to have, but consider whether you have a good rational justification for it or whether you are exercising too much caution to the point that you are getting offended on behalf of others even when those others are not themselves offended.
- kelnos 6y ago
  I don't think people are talking about using slurs to describe themselves, but slurs to describe others. The WSB folks are in a weird position where they're using slurs to describe themselves that don't actually apply to them (well, not as a whole; I imagine there are some autistic WSB members, just like there are in most populations). I'm bewildered as to why they think that's funny (or whatever justification they have for it), but it does strike me as potentially offensive.
  - ALittleLight 6y ago
    Why does it matter what you find offensive though? What you're saying sounds like an excellent reason for you personally not to visit wallstreetbets, it doesn't sound like any kind of reason at all for the community to be curtailed, censored, or banned. As an example, I grew up in a very religious home. My family would find things like cursing, taking the Lord's name in vain, or advocating for atheism to be very offensive. And yet, I hope it is very easy for you to understand that it would be wrong to take what my religious family finds offensive and apply those ethical rules to other people. Jehovah's Witnesses think birthdays and holidays are offensive, Muslims think graven images are offensive, etc etc. All sorts of people believe all sorts of things. Every group of people is not obliged to not be offensive to every other group of people. You may be inclined to say that people can choose not to be religious but have no say over things like mental type or race. I don't think that's true because the majority of religious people are in the same religion as their parents, implying there isn't much free choice involved. Even if that were true, why is something you believe less respected than something that you are?
heyoni 6y ago
Why? You mentioned that you don’t ever think it’s ok but never mentioned why.
acct776 6y ago
That's your opinion.

DiggyJohnson 6y ago

I just cannot understand this take, genuinely. How can you know what is a slur and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood? What if...anything really? How on earth would you take action on this point, besides teaching our children to be kind, thoughtful, and curious.

joubert 6y ago
> How can you know what is a slur and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood? How can you know what is an insult and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood? How can you know what is a threat and what is not when judging the way others communicate in their relationships? What if it’s a nickname from childhood?
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Kranar 6y ago

People of various backgrounds often refer to themselves or close friends of theirs by what would otherwise be offensive slurs. That goes for black people, LGBT people, women, Asians, Jews, heck even white people often refer to themselves or another white person they are close with using a slur. There is actually evidence that people who refer to one another using slurs that would otherwise be offensive do so to strengthen social bonds with each other and there's some interesting game theory for why this is the case. It's also quite common among comedians and other entertainers to make fun of their own ethnicity using slurs or use slurs in various performances. You personally may not find it appropriate and that's a subjective point of view that you are entitled to have, but consider whether you have a good rational justification for it or whether you are exercising too much caution to the point that you are getting offended on behalf of others even when those others are not themselves offended.

kelnos 6y ago
I don't think people are talking about using slurs to describe themselves, but slurs to describe others. The WSB folks are in a weird position where they're using slurs to describe themselves that don't actually apply to them (well, not as a whole; I imagine there are some autistic WSB members, just like there are in most populations). I'm bewildered as to why they think that's funny (or whatever justification they have for it), but it does strike me as potentially offensive.
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  Why does it matter what you find offensive though? What you're saying sounds like an excellent reason for you personally not to visit wallstreetbets, it doesn't sound like any kind of reason at all for the community to be curtailed, censored, or banned. As an example, I grew up in a very religious home. My family would find things like cursing, taking the Lord's name in vain, or advocating for atheism to be very offensive. And yet, I hope it is very easy for you to understand that it would be wrong to take what my religious family finds offensive and apply those ethical rules to other people. Jehovah's Witnesses think birthdays and holidays are offensive, Muslims think graven images are offensive, etc etc. All sorts of people believe all sorts of things. Every group of people is not obliged to not be offensive to every other group of people. You may be inclined to say that people can choose not to be religious but have no say over things like mental type or race. I don't think that's true because the majority of religious people are in the same religion as their parents, implying there isn't much free choice involved. Even if that were true, why is something you believe less respected than something that you are?

heyoni 6y ago

Why? You mentioned that you don’t ever think it’s ok but never mentioned why.

acct776 6y ago

That's your opinion.