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> The end game will have to be some kind of forced infrastructure sharing agreements. So Tesla spend billions of their own money building out infrastructure wh
by ogre_codes 6y ago
> The end game will have to be some kind of forced infrastructure sharing agreements.
So Tesla spend billions of their own money building out infrastructure when the competition was literally laughing at them... and now that it's paid off and EVs are starting to go mainstream we should force them to share that infra with everyone else?
That's a giant bullshit sandwich right there.
- paxys 6y agoMight suck for them initially, but eventually real competition in the space is good for everyone, including Tesla. Their honeymoon period isn't going to last forever. And with the amount of government subsidy they have already received, they should be the last ones complaining about regulation.
- ogre_codes 6y ago> And with the amount of government subsidy they have already received, they should be the last ones complaining about regulation. You mean the same subsidies which currently give Tesla's GM-come-lately competitors a $10k pricing advantage on new car purchases? Maybe that's the solution. Every time a competing car is sold, Tesla gets the subsidy instead of the maker. Then Tesla can use it to continue building out the supercharger network which everyone benefits from. GM, Ford, VW, Toyota... these are multi-billion dollar companies, several of which have received massive subsidies from the US government themselves. Forcing Tesla to subsidize their myopic competitors as sort of perverted corporate tort in the US is crap.
- GizmoSwan 6y agoAfter receiving massive subsidies in California, Tesla thanked them by moving it operation to Austin Texas to avoid taxes!
- ogre_codes 6y agoDid they get subsidies from the state for manufacturing there or just the same EV subsidies everyone collects? The EV credits are collected by companies who don't even manufacture in the US, let alone California. Moving out of the Bay Area California makes a ton of sense for a manufacturer. I'm just happy they are keeping manufacturing in the US.
- GizmoSwan 6y agoWe are talking about charging stations and obviously Tesla is getting massive rebates. Free money to serve its own interest and not the electric car industry. It is not providing the service to all electric cars by avoiding standardization. Again costs are socialized and profits privatized.
- ogre_codes 6y agoIs Tesla getting rebates at this point? You say it's obvious, but I'd though EVs were subsidized at the time of launch and Tesla has burned through all of their subsidies.
- GizmoSwan 6y agoPS. They are moving to Texas because it does not have state taxes and they produce cars in China for Chinese market. Manufactures, Amazon, Walmart etc are all glad to be subsidized and avoid taxes in other regions.