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> Remember: Parler tried “making their own X”. Making their own X, which they didn't even host on their own servers? yea...ok.

kevinpet 6y ago
Next up, "making their own X, without even building their own parallel internet"
- ntsplnkv2 6y ago
  It's not impossible or difficult to self host. To build your own ISP is. Not a fair comparison. Yes believe it or not there was a world where you could host your own hardware! But you sold out then, and now you're mad about it. Womp womp. We warned you.
  - bitstan 6y ago
    Your single blade on a rack isn't going to stand up against non-stop ddos attacks. That requires ISP level infrastructure. That's why companies like Cloudflare are publicly listed. From the wiki "Cloudflare was created in 2009 by Matthew Prince, Lee Holloway, and Michelle Zatlyn.[2] It received media attention in June 2011 for providing security services to the website of LulzSec, a black hat hacking group.[3]" > Womp womp. We warned you. Your multiple personalities are seeking vengeance on free speech because.. you wanted self hosted hardware??
    - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
      If you endlessly come up with more and more excuses I'm sure you'll eventually land on needing another earth. What can you do if a meteor hits? What then! Clearly it is oppressive because there is no other earth for me to back up my beliefs and oppress others! Ultimately you can only do what you can. But let's be honest, if you can't lift a finger to install server hardware and networking switches, how on earth can you possibly advocate for change in our society? > Your multiple personalities are seeking vengeance on free speech because.. you wanted self hosted hardware?? Please remember HN etiquette. You say you want free speech yet people can't even invest in your own hardware. Parlor complained but removed left wing content 24/7 - no one complained about "free speech" then. Make it make sense instead of being obvious political pandering.
      - bitstan 6y ago
        > You say you want free speech yet people can't even invest in your own hardware. We already have the hardware. A modern phone has as much computing power as an early server. Computing power isn't what's lacking, it's the permission to use it. Will Apple and our ISP's allow p2p networking using our own hardware? Apple denied bitcoin wallets from the app store because "reasons". Many ISP's have policies against hosting servers. The real solution to this is the decentralized web and it too can be clamped down by a handful of companies. If these companies want to act like publishers they should be treated as such.
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kevinpet 6y ago

Next up, "making their own X, without even building their own parallel internet"

ntsplnkv2 6y ago
It's not impossible or difficult to self host. To build your own ISP is. Not a fair comparison. Yes believe it or not there was a world where you could host your own hardware! But you sold out then, and now you're mad about it. Womp womp. We warned you.
- bitstan 6y ago
  Your single blade on a rack isn't going to stand up against non-stop ddos attacks. That requires ISP level infrastructure. That's why companies like Cloudflare are publicly listed. From the wiki "Cloudflare was created in 2009 by Matthew Prince, Lee Holloway, and Michelle Zatlyn.[2] It received media attention in June 2011 for providing security services to the website of LulzSec, a black hat hacking group.[3]" > Womp womp. We warned you. Your multiple personalities are seeking vengeance on free speech because.. you wanted self hosted hardware??
  - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
    If you endlessly come up with more and more excuses I'm sure you'll eventually land on needing another earth. What can you do if a meteor hits? What then! Clearly it is oppressive because there is no other earth for me to back up my beliefs and oppress others! Ultimately you can only do what you can. But let's be honest, if you can't lift a finger to install server hardware and networking switches, how on earth can you possibly advocate for change in our society? > Your multiple personalities are seeking vengeance on free speech because.. you wanted self hosted hardware?? Please remember HN etiquette. You say you want free speech yet people can't even invest in your own hardware. Parlor complained but removed left wing content 24/7 - no one complained about "free speech" then. Make it make sense instead of being obvious political pandering.
    - bitstan 6y ago
      > You say you want free speech yet people can't even invest in your own hardware. We already have the hardware. A modern phone has as much computing power as an early server. Computing power isn't what's lacking, it's the permission to use it. Will Apple and our ISP's allow p2p networking using our own hardware? Apple denied bitcoin wallets from the app store because "reasons". Many ISP's have policies against hosting servers. The real solution to this is the decentralized web and it too can be clamped down by a handful of companies. If these companies want to act like publishers they should be treated as such.

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