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> if legacy automakers want access to Tesla's supercharging network for their own EVs, they should be prepared to contribute towards the enormous capex costs Te

> if legacy automakers want access to Tesla's supercharging network for their own EVs, they should be prepared to contribute towards the enormous capex costs Tesla incurred as well as the ongoing operational expenses By this logic Tesla should be banned from using all other charging networks. Is that what you're proposing? What should actually happen is that Tesla should switch to CCS Type 1 Combo plugs in the US and then they should open their chargers to all brands of EV. The way EV owners can contribute to Tesla's charging network is by simply paying for the electricity the charger dispenses, just like ICE vehicle owners pay for fuel. Tesla switched to CCS type 2 Combo plugs in Europe: https://insideevs.com/news/343728/most-tesla-superchargers-now-retrofitted-with-ccs-plugs-in-europe-video/ https://insideevs.com/news/343728/most-tesla-superchargers-n... Now the next step Tesla needs to take is to open their European chargers to all brands of EV.

theshrike79 6y ago
Everyone should switch to CCS Type 2 Combo, like EU already has :) A big part of the Tesla network is that there are only Teslas in there - vehicles that are guaranteed to have the ability to charge at 150kW+. If every joe schmoe with a PHEV or Leaf would be hogging the HVDC chargers, the competitive advantage would go away and there'd be a lot more congestion.
- clouddrover 6y ago
  So by this logic Tesla should be banned from all Electrify America chargers because Telsas can only charge at 50 to 70 kW with a CHAdeMO or CCS adapter. And older Model Ss should be banned from Tesla's network because they can't charge at 150 kW. Is that your proposal?
  - theshrike79 6y ago
    Nope, people can charge wherever they want. Charging a 50kW max car from a 350kW charger is like driving a go-cart on a freeway. Yes, you can do it. Should you? Probably not. Will other people be annoyed by you? Definitely.

theshrike79 6y ago

Everyone should switch to CCS Type 2 Combo, like EU already has :) A big part of the Tesla network is that there are only Teslas in there - vehicles that are guaranteed to have the ability to charge at 150kW+. If every joe schmoe with a PHEV or Leaf would be hogging the HVDC chargers, the competitive advantage would go away and there'd be a lot more congestion.

clouddrover 6y ago
So by this logic Tesla should be banned from all Electrify America chargers because Telsas can only charge at 50 to 70 kW with a CHAdeMO or CCS adapter. And older Model Ss should be banned from Tesla's network because they can't charge at 150 kW. Is that your proposal?
- theshrike79 6y ago
  Nope, people can charge wherever they want. Charging a 50kW max car from a 350kW charger is like driving a go-cart on a freeway. Yes, you can do it. Should you? Probably not. Will other people be annoyed by you? Definitely.