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Hasn't Gitlab just been a copying Github machine too from the start? I don't mean to start a fight but I've only ever seen praise from its launch as a wanted co

by loceng 6y ago

Hasn't Gitlab just been a copying Github machine too from the start? I don't mean to start a fight but I've only ever seen praise from its launch as a wanted competitor, but no one seems to have mentioned the obvious? I know git wasn't invented by Github but from what I remember Github was a pretty clear roadmap for Gitlab.

noja 6y ago
I thought GitLab was ahead of GitHub features?
- loceng 6y ago
  They may be now but that's not surprising if you have a solid foundation of a highly successful business to copy efficiently and then can allocate more resources to additional features to differentiate?
  - noja 6y ago
    I thought they nearly always were. I remember using runners with GitLab years ago.
- tempest_ 6y ago
  Prior to the MS acquisition Gitlab had a much better CI story. MS has been grafting all of its DevOps tooling onto Github since the purchase so it is a bit more even now
atonse 6y ago
Their original product was a pretty shameless carbon copy of github even down to the logo. But their CI and other tools expanding, they seem to have come into their own. For a few years, it seems like GitHub had completely stagnated and was riddled with politics and infighting. But they seem to have found their momentum again. We might switch back to GitHub because GitLab feels just messy and less polished right now.
oehpr 6y ago
Absolutely any feature present in a mainline product that isn't present in a prospective competitor will become a gigantic and unresolvable issue for any detractors. "gitlab can't X" "You can just do Y in gitlab to accomplish that, it's fine" "but it's not X, it can't do X" If a competing product is anything short of a reskin of whatever the current service, it is unacceptable and unworkable. Having personally watched this dynamic play out in my co-workers, I don't feel inclined to criticize gitlab for re-implementing lots of github features.
stunt 6y ago
Not really. It was at the beginning when they both only had core features for version control. But, if you compare them today and the last few years, Github is adding features that Gitlab had for a while. Mostly on CI/CD, Security, and Project Management.
granshaw 6y ago
Used git lab for the first time today and was shocked at how closely the ui resembled github’s - seemed like the exact same layout with the same buttons and content in the same places I don’t see that level of carbon copying in Saas very often

by loceng 6y ago

noja 6y ago

I thought GitLab was ahead of GitHub features?

loceng 6y ago
They may be now but that's not surprising if you have a solid foundation of a highly successful business to copy efficiently and then can allocate more resources to additional features to differentiate?
- noja 6y ago
  I thought they nearly always were. I remember using runners with GitLab years ago.
tempest_ 6y ago
Prior to the MS acquisition Gitlab had a much better CI story. MS has been grafting all of its DevOps tooling onto Github since the purchase so it is a bit more even now

atonse 6y ago

Their original product was a pretty shameless carbon copy of github even down to the logo. But their CI and other tools expanding, they seem to have come into their own. For a few years, it seems like GitHub had completely stagnated and was riddled with politics and infighting. But they seem to have found their momentum again. We might switch back to GitHub because GitLab feels just messy and less polished right now.

oehpr 6y ago

Absolutely any feature present in a mainline product that isn't present in a prospective competitor will become a gigantic and unresolvable issue for any detractors. "gitlab can't X" "You can just do Y in gitlab to accomplish that, it's fine" "but it's not X, it can't do X" If a competing product is anything short of a reskin of whatever the current service, it is unacceptable and unworkable. Having personally watched this dynamic play out in my co-workers, I don't feel inclined to criticize gitlab for re-implementing lots of github features.

stunt 6y ago

Not really. It was at the beginning when they both only had core features for version control. But, if you compare them today and the last few years, Github is adding features that Gitlab had for a while. Mostly on CI/CD, Security, and Project Management.

granshaw 6y ago

Used git lab for the first time today and was shocked at how closely the ui resembled github’s - seemed like the exact same layout with the same buttons and content in the same places I don’t see that level of carbon copying in Saas very often