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I've come to despise coding boot camps, they are just so predatory. They have no academic standards, no standardization, and they promise the world. I took the
by ohdannyboy 6y ago
I've come to despise coding boot camps, they are just so predatory. They have no academic standards, no standardization, and they promise the world. I took the more traditional CS degree route but understand it's not the best path for everyone. However, bootcamps aren't the new way and probably never will be (I expect them to take their place next to DeVry and other university level scams advertising on daytime television).
Entry level programmers are told that there is a huge demand. There is a huge demand, but everyone wants at least some experience. Some will do personal projects, maybe work at a chop shop for a few months and work their way in. Others won't or never get past the project phase. Coding bootcamps come in and claim to bridge that gap for an exorbitant price. The attitude is so often "just pay for this piece of paper and get a job." Students pay up front and are left out on their ass when they realize it was a scam.
Unfortunately by the time I see people get desperate enough to buy a piece of paper from a bootcamp I think they should either work on their soft skills or reconsider this industry altogether. I personally know a few people who either have gone or are considering such programs and they all lack passion. They only want to program because they see it as a stable line of employment. Hiring managers can see this from a mile away and lose interest. If it's just a lack of soft skills then learn how to sell yourself and communicate your interest. But if you don't really want this and can't bridge the gap then I'd find something else to do.
- justaguy88 6y agoI'm interested in hearing who is actually hiring bootcamp grads? I've not actually met one before (though maybe bootcampers don't end up in backend roles)
- pcthrowaway 6y agoI worked for a cash strapped startup a while back, and we hired a bootcamp grad. Even though his starting salary was low ($20 /hr canadian), it worked out swimmingly for all of us. He got plenty of training, ramped up fast (with a pay increase after a month), and got loads of stuff done. The startup ran out of runway after another 6-8 months, but it gave him the experience he needed to move forward with his career as well
- 908B64B197 6y agoI tried interviewing some. The signal to noise ratio was just not worth it. Not a single hire.
- Ancalagon 6y agoGod forbid someone should want a stable line of employment.
- 908B64B197 6y ago> I expect them to take their place next to DeVry and other university level scams advertising on daytime television 50K Javascript jobs advertised at bus stops with a coding bootcamp URL. We're already there. > There is a huge demand, but everyone wants at least some experience. Any job add with less than 5 years of experience is entry-level. Apply even with 0 years of experience.