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It works both ways. I remember looking after my baby daughter between jobs, taking her to classes etc. These were full of mothers with babies, who generally loo

It works both ways. I remember looking after my baby daughter between jobs, taking her to classes etc. These were full of mothers with babies, who generally looked at me like, at best, a freak, at worst, someone who shouldn't be near children, and somehow coerced one to come along as cover-up. People assume the woman is responsible for kids, which is a bit of a 1D projection of women, but also, in my personal experience, women, especially mothers, assume the men shouldn't be around, are no good with children etc.

IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago
Actually - you may be onto something here. From personal experience, i have seen vast majority of personnel at daycares are women. As in, 95%+. So the bias, if there is any, at that EDU level, would be resting on such personnel, and the people that manage such notification systems. Thus, taken to its simplest premise, this article would become "Busy men & women complaining about other women who only wish to talk to women". In my experiences with K and preK, i have not had this problem. What I did see was largely tech-driven: The notifications sent to parent had 1 default, which was mom. Once we requested to have me in the loop, it happened as requested, but mom missed all the updates (and i had to fwd). We requested both to be updated, but this could not be done. System only had space for 1 phone number. I suspect with COVID, a lot of these preconceived notions have been brought down. However, we should recognize that giving tech to people that never had to manage it, its going to lead to problems. Let's be more patient and not assume bias to something that could very well lack of skill / training.
clarkevans 6y ago
When my daughter was learning to use equipment on the playground, we discussed safety often and scripted moves -- she had lots of practice, confidence (and caution), with few limits. One day we were at the playground and a mother expressed her disapproval that I was letting an ~20mo use the slide (she denied her 3yo son to use it). She exclaimed: "You are endangering your daughter! Where is your wife?". To which I said, "I'm the father. My daughter is being safe." She then wanted to know where my wife was... and threatened to call the police. I told her: "We live in the yellow house down the street, my wife is home." After a few days, her son was climbing the ladder too; the woman became good playground company. I think there's all sorts of things people can learn from each other.

IG_Semmelweiss 6y ago

Actually - you may be onto something here. From personal experience, i have seen vast majority of personnel at daycares are women. As in, 95%+. So the bias, if there is any, at that EDU level, would be resting on such personnel, and the people that manage such notification systems. Thus, taken to its simplest premise, this article would become "Busy men & women complaining about other women who only wish to talk to women". In my experiences with K and preK, i have not had this problem. What I did see was largely tech-driven: The notifications sent to parent had 1 default, which was mom. Once we requested to have me in the loop, it happened as requested, but mom missed all the updates (and i had to fwd). We requested both to be updated, but this could not be done. System only had space for 1 phone number. I suspect with COVID, a lot of these preconceived notions have been brought down. However, we should recognize that giving tech to people that never had to manage it, its going to lead to problems. Let's be more patient and not assume bias to something that could very well lack of skill / training.

clarkevans 6y ago

When my daughter was learning to use equipment on the playground, we discussed safety often and scripted moves -- she had lots of practice, confidence (and caution), with few limits. One day we were at the playground and a mother expressed her disapproval that I was letting an ~20mo use the slide (she denied her 3yo son to use it). She exclaimed: "You are endangering your daughter! Where is your wife?". To which I said, "I'm the father. My daughter is being safe." She then wanted to know where my wife was... and threatened to call the police. I told her: "We live in the yellow house down the street, my wife is home." After a few days, her son was climbing the ladder too; the woman became good playground company. I think there's all sorts of things people can learn from each other.