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Just shoot everything in 20mm, because that is roughly equivalent to the human eye. Mark every photo with a different lens as distorted and potentially misleadi
by corty 6y ago
Just shoot everything in 20mm, because that is roughly equivalent to the human eye. Mark every photo with a different lens as distorted and potentially misleading. Journalistic integrity saved ;)
- virtue3 6y agoon a 35mm camera (what used to be standard film) it's 50mm lens is roughly human eye FoV. You really need to know the sensor size to adjust accordingly.
- julvo 6y agoThat's right. Here's a handy chart with common sensor sizes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-frame_DSLR#/media/File:SensorSizes.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-frame_DSLR#/media/File:Se... E.g. on a Canon 450D (crop factor 1.6) the equivalent of a 50mm full frame lens is a 30mm lens
- jedimastert 6y agoI've always heard it was 35mm. Weird. Then again, it's also weird to try and guess what an average perspective would even be, as it's dependent on screen size and distance from face. I wonder how consistent the "arc-length" is between people and devices
- dsego 6y ago35 is 50 on a cropped sensor. But I also feel like my vision is closer to 35mm full frame (23 aps-c).
- throwanem 6y agoWith no crop factor, 50mm is pretty close to what's "in frame" for me, with my glasses, and 35mm is pretty close to what's "in frame" for my total field of vision. You'd have to defocus pretty hard to make a 35mm lens match what my uncorrected eyes actually see, though...
- bborud 6y agoThis conversion doesn't actually make any technical sense. Yes, you can calculate the field of view, but the depth of field, the angles of sight lines etc. are that of a 35mm lens. For an intuitive way to visualize this: look at a few dolly zooms and think about what you are seeing in terms of geometry.
- nicoburns 6y agoMy understanding is that it's actually ~40mm (or even 42mm). But of course that's not a standard focal length, so either 50mm or 35mm is closest. EDIT: Ah yes, I remembered correctly https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/why-40mm.html https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photogr...
- ghaff 6y ago~40mm isn't that unusual. I have a 40mm pancake lens for my full-frame DSLR and I've had rangefinders with about that fixed focal length and it was pretty common as the low-end of a lot of digital point and shoots.
- nicoburns 6y agoIt's true. But it's also not nearly as common as 50mm (or even 35mm) on DSLRs
- ghaff 6y agoCertainly. Before zooms became common, 50mm was absolutely the standard "kit" lens for an SLR. Personally, I always preferred something a bit wider for day-to-day. Of course, most people generally use zooms these days.
- roelschroeven 6y ago> You really need to know the sensor size to adjust accordingly. Absolutely. Focus length without sensor size (or film size) is a meaningless indicator for FOV. But when it comes to a FOV being equivalent to the human eye, surely we should take display size into account as well. A photo made with a 500mm lens displayed at 4"x6" has exactly the same perspective as a photo taken from the same place with a 50m lens, displayed at 40"x60". In fact that small picture is basically the same as the large one cropped to the size of the small one. It's a factor I never see mentioned. The usual explanation is that a "normal" lens gives more or less the same image when we look through the viewfinder as when we look directly, without the camera. But we don't look at photographs through a camera's viewfinder; we see them on our screens, on billboards, on prints.
- steerablesafe 6y agoThen you can go all the way and factor in viewing distance as well, then with the physical dimensions of the medium and the viewing distance you get an actual FOV, which better to be in the same order of magnitude as the FOV of the camera when the picture was taken to look realistic.
- formerly_proven 6y agoThere is no equivalent focal length to the human eye. It depends on what you are doing with the eye. For example, when you are focusing on a single thing, like a person talking to you, then a picture with a 50 mm (135) lens generally looks sorta similar in terms of proportions and perceived perspective. But if you are taking in the scenery, a 50 mm lens would seem to be too narrow and you need a moderate wide angle to convey a similar feel. Similarly, intently focusing on a distant object will make a 50 mm seem to broad, and a 105 mm will seem more like it.
- ghaff 6y agoYeah, 50mm was the traditional full-frame 35mm film "normal" lens but anything from about 35mm focal length to 100mm or so would be pretty conventional. You get wider or longer than that and you're getting into different perspectives than what a human eye would normally see. But, as you say, it's not really a straightforward comparison.
- formerly_proven 6y agoViewfinders are also usually designed to have around 1x magnification with a 50 mm lens. That's why the viewfinders on crop DSLRs seem smaller than on a fullframe, because they literally are 2/3rds the size.
- heftig 6y agoWhat if you compare a wide angle shot with a panorama created from multiple normal lens shots?
- formerly_proven 6y agoThat doesn't matter if the panorama is stitched using the same projection as the lens (i.e. rectilinear panorama for a rectilinear lens, or a fisheye pano for a fisheye lens), because projection and field of view are the same, so the images are the same. Note that professionally made panoramas are often made with more complicated and hand-tuned projections like Panini.
- lmilcin 6y agoThere is no single lens length that can capture all types of phenomena that journalism is interested in. And a single lens length does not solve a problem. What if you wait for people to leave a bus and capture at exact moment when they are out of the bus but haven't had time to disperse yet? What if you cut the bus out of the shot and extend it to the street. Your idea is naive in the extreme in that it would solve anything.