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I'm not sure what world you're living in, but the failure rate so far has been much higher than what Musk has said. Is it bad? They said 1%, it's 5-6%. Should w

I'm not sure what world you're living in, but the failure rate so far has been much higher than what Musk has said. Is it bad? They said 1%, it's 5-6%. Should we count the early satellites? Why not? The newer ones haven't been up long enough to tell how reliable they'll be. He also said they want latency < 20ms on Starlink. Again, not going to happen because of physics, but that didn't stop people from repeating it over and over despite the service being 40ms+ on average. Sure, you CAN hit 20ms if you are next to a POP and your endpoint is a single satellite hop, but that's not the norm. To be frank, it sounds like you don't understand the industry very well, and that's ok. But not everyone forgets what was said in 2015 when the project was launching. Since you asked, here's one non-truth: https://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=1158349 https://licensing.fcc.gov/myibfs/download.do?attachment_key=... >High capacity: Each satellite in the SpaceX System provides aggregate downlink capacity to users ranging from 17 to 23 Gbps, depending on the gain of the user terminal involved. Assuming an average of 20 Gbps, the 1600 satellites in the Initial Deployment would have a total aggregate capacity of 32 Tbps. SpaceX will periodically improve the satellites over the course of the multi-year deployment of the system, which may further increase capacity. This ignores A) competitors who have first priority on the spectrum, B) 80% of the satellites are over water and completely unusable during that time, and C) more recently we know that the user terminal at best would perform lower than the 17Gbps low end they cite due to cost-cutting on the scan and G/T of the antenna. If you believe it's okay to lie in FCC filings so that you win awards and change policies, then that's a valid opinion to hold.

Tuna-Fish 6y ago
> Since you asked, here's one non-truth: No I didn't. I specifically asked for an FCC or FAA reg that SpaceX has broken. This is a very different thing. > If you believe it's okay to lie in FCC filings so that you win awards and change policies, then that's a valid opinion to hold. That's not an opinion I have, and I don't actually believe your claims about them lying are correct here (you seem to assume that FCC is composed of idiots), but regardless, it's completely irrelevant to the point. Even if they do that, my point that once FCC or FAA puts something official on paper, SpaceX treats the words as holy, remains. Look back at the beginning of this thread. Someone made a statement that can be boiled down to "SpaceX ignores FCC regs". They do not do that. My entire, and only, point here was that they do not do that. You apparently seemed to take that as a "SpaceX is good" statement, and have argued against it with essentially entirely random "SpaceX is bad" statements. How the f is the failure rate of SpaceX satellites even remotely connected to anything here? Or did you just jump to it because you wanted to say something negative about SpaceX. So I ask again: Do you know of a single case where SpaceX broke or ignored FCC regs? Not things where they did something you think as bad, but where there was a rule, and they broke it. That's a simple question.
- shaklee3 6y ago
  https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1354777437654179841 https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/13547774376541798...
  - Tuna-Fish 6y ago
    And here is the order and authorization from FCC that gave them permission to do that launch, including deploying 10 Starlink satellites at 560km: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-21-34A1.pdf https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-21-34A1.pdf Note that SpaceX asked for more, but FCC decided to only grant 10 satellites for now. So, SpaceX did as they always do and followed the order to the letter, and only deployed 10.
    - shaklee3 6y ago
      https://mobile.twitter.com/Free_Space/status/1356603400171970560 https://mobile.twitter.com/Free_Space/status/135660340017197...

Tuna-Fish 6y ago

> Since you asked, here's one non-truth: No I didn't. I specifically asked for an FCC or FAA reg that SpaceX has broken. This is a very different thing. > If you believe it's okay to lie in FCC filings so that you win awards and change policies, then that's a valid opinion to hold. That's not an opinion I have, and I don't actually believe your claims about them lying are correct here (you seem to assume that FCC is composed of idiots), but regardless, it's completely irrelevant to the point. Even if they do that, my point that once FCC or FAA puts something official on paper, SpaceX treats the words as holy, remains. Look back at the beginning of this thread. Someone made a statement that can be boiled down to "SpaceX ignores FCC regs". They do not do that. My entire, and only, point here was that they do not do that. You apparently seemed to take that as a "SpaceX is good" statement, and have argued against it with essentially entirely random "SpaceX is bad" statements. How the f is the failure rate of SpaceX satellites even remotely connected to anything here? Or did you just jump to it because you wanted to say something negative about SpaceX. So I ask again: Do you know of a single case where SpaceX broke or ignored FCC regs? Not things where they did something you think as bad, but where there was a rule, and they broke it. That's a simple question.

shaklee3 6y ago
https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1354777437654179841 https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/13547774376541798...
- Tuna-Fish 6y ago
  And here is the order and authorization from FCC that gave them permission to do that launch, including deploying 10 Starlink satellites at 560km: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-21-34A1.pdf https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-21-34A1.pdf Note that SpaceX asked for more, but FCC decided to only grant 10 satellites for now. So, SpaceX did as they always do and followed the order to the letter, and only deployed 10.
  - shaklee3 6y ago
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Free_Space/status/1356603400171970560 https://mobile.twitter.com/Free_Space/status/135660340017197...