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You know what is surprising? A lot of people will easily accept those face scanners too :/

by shaan7 6y ago

ogre_codes 6y ago
A lot of people accept that which is beyond their control. That doesn't mean they are Ok with it, just that they don't know how to do anything about it or often that it's even happening.
- franga2000 6y ago
  Wasn't there an article about paying with your face around here just a bit ago? People clearly don't just tolerate this, but embrace it. Only people from places where it's too late to go back (like China) are aware of the dangers of these systems, but they can hardly warn the rest of us and when they do, we generally don't listen as "something like that surely wouldn't happen in my free country". It would seem that people only get slightly spooked when a government does something that could impact their privacy (even when it actually doesn't - see the recent covid tracking app backlash in basically every country) but when private companies do it, they eat it up hapily.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    > People clearly don't just tolerate this, but embrace it. If there were an opt-in way of doing this, it wouldn't bother me. Similarly with online tracking, if it were opt in only, it wouldn't bother me. What is frustrating is the lack of transparency or ability to control who and where my data is collected.
  - judge2020 6y ago
    > Wasn't there an article about paying with your face around here just a bit ago? There's not much risk to 'pay with your face' for Apple/Google/Samsung pay given it's all on-device biometrics that never leave the phone, but a similar situation is when Google paid $5 to people willing to submit their face to help with facial recognition training in the then-upcoming Pixel 4 phone. https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-4-usd-5-face-data-scanning-confirmation-2077344 https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-4-usd-5-f...
    - franga2000 6y ago
      It wasn't about that, it was about cameras and screens mounted on kiosks that you would just look at and make a hand gesture to pay. Not sure who was doing the processing, but it certainly wasn't anything the users owned/controlled.

You know what is surprising? A lot of people will easily accept those face scanners too :/

by shaan7 6y ago

You know what is surprising? A lot of people will easily accept those face scanners too :/

A lot of people accept that which is beyond their control. That doesn't mean they are Ok with it, just that they don't know how to do anything about it or often that it's even happening.

franga2000 6y ago
Wasn't there an article about paying with your face around here just a bit ago? People clearly don't just tolerate this, but embrace it. Only people from places where it's too late to go back (like China) are aware of the dangers of these systems, but they can hardly warn the rest of us and when they do, we generally don't listen as "something like that surely wouldn't happen in my free country". It would seem that people only get slightly spooked when a government does something that could impact their privacy (even when it actually doesn't - see the recent covid tracking app backlash in basically every country) but when private companies do it, they eat it up hapily.
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  > People clearly don't just tolerate this, but embrace it. If there were an opt-in way of doing this, it wouldn't bother me. Similarly with online tracking, if it were opt in only, it wouldn't bother me. What is frustrating is the lack of transparency or ability to control who and where my data is collected.
- judge2020 6y ago
  > Wasn't there an article about paying with your face around here just a bit ago? There's not much risk to 'pay with your face' for Apple/Google/Samsung pay given it's all on-device biometrics that never leave the phone, but a similar situation is when Google paid $5 to people willing to submit their face to help with facial recognition training in the then-upcoming Pixel 4 phone. https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-4-usd-5-face-data-scanning-confirmation-2077344 https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-4-usd-5-f...
  - franga2000 6y ago
    It wasn't about that, it was about cameras and screens mounted on kiosks that you would just look at and make a hand gesture to pay. Not sure who was doing the processing, but it certainly wasn't anything the users owned/controlled.