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Here's a good example, but from America. I find it especially abhorrent when an American President orders the killing of American citizens (at least 1 directly

by cronix 6y ago

Here's a good example, but from America. I find it especially abhorrent when an American President orders the killing of American citizens (at least 1 directly ordered with several other "unintended" murders) on foreign soil without their guaranteed 5th Amendment trial, which states, in part, "that no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." > Since 2009, the United States, in the conduct of U.S. counterterrorism operations against al-Qa’ida and its associated forces outside of areas of active hostilities, has specifically targeted and killed one U.S. citizen, Anwar al-Aulaqi. The United States is further aware of three other U.S. citizens who have been killed in such U.S. counterterrorism operations over that same time period: Samir Khan, ‘Abd al-Rahman Anwar al-Aulaqi, and Jude Kenan Mohammed. These individuals were not specifically targeted by the United States. -Attorney General Eric Holder, May 22, 2013 https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/kesha-rogers/four-us-citizens-killed-obama-drone-strikes-3-were/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/kesha-roge...

purephase 6y ago
I'm in agreement for sure, extra judicial killing of any kind is questionable. I think we should review all of them and hold those responsible for their actions. However, drone strikes have "collatoral damage" and unintended side effects like this (not saying this makes them good and they should continue) especially when they're deployed in areas openly holding people who are in active conflict against people in their own countries and there is military deployed. Again, this doesn't make it right. There's a big difference between that and a lone citizen applying for a marriage VISA, in another country entirely, being kidnapped and murdered due to his writing against the regime. And, due to the nature of the relationship between the US and SA it has been nearly covered up.

by cronix 6y ago

purephase 6y ago

I'm in agreement for sure, extra judicial killing of any kind is questionable. I think we should review all of them and hold those responsible for their actions. However, drone strikes have "collatoral damage" and unintended side effects like this (not saying this makes them good and they should continue) especially when they're deployed in areas openly holding people who are in active conflict against people in their own countries and there is military deployed. Again, this doesn't make it right. There's a big difference between that and a lone citizen applying for a marriage VISA, in another country entirely, being kidnapped and murdered due to his writing against the regime. And, due to the nature of the relationship between the US and SA it has been nearly covered up.