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"For that reason, we are continuously working to harden Firefox against online tracking of our users." https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/org.moz

"For that reason, we are continuously working to harden Firefox against online tracking of our users." https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/org.mozilla.firefox/latest/ https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/org.mozilla... Something like that.

icebraining 6y ago
Firefox lets you manually opt-in into their analytics, yes.
- tentacleuno 6y ago
  It's opt-out. Feel free to check this yourself, instead of mindlessly defending Firefox. I'm tired of this exclusionary attitude on Hacker News, to be perfectly honest. There is absolutely no warning that this telemetry is active, which is a dark-pattern in itself. Looks like the Firefox mob have already got to this post. No wonder nothing is changing. -- tentacleuno
  - icebraining 6y ago
    You are right! My information was out of date. I just installed Firefox for Android (I generally use the Beta) and that crap was enabled by default. Sigh.
    - tentacleuno 6y ago
      I think it's now enabled by default with Fenix. Actually, I think it was enabled by default in the older one too?
franga2000 6y ago
Chrome/Edge/everything else: anybody and their dog can personally identifiy individuals on the Internet and then sell that information to advertisers who use it to psychologically manipulate you into buying things. There is no consent or opt-out. Mozilla: we've made sure people can't do any of that, but we collect anonymous statistics about how our own software is used. Oh, and we tell you about it and let you turn it off if you want. People: Mozilla is evil and doesn't actually respect privacy.
- tentacleuno 6y ago
  They don't tell you about it. That's the whole point ...?
  - franga2000 6y ago
    Of course they do! Haven't you seen a fresh install of Firefox in like 10 years? The second thing you see is the little "do you want to opt out of analytics" popup. They don't say anything about the other, non-privacy-related requests FF makes (like portal and update checks), but those are explained in their privacy policy and it's very easy to verify that they in fact don't contain any information you should be worried about. Like it or not, there isn't a privacy issue here. I wouldn't mind a "silent mode", sure, but ultimately, that's a missing feature, not a critical bug.

icebraining 6y ago

Firefox lets you manually opt-in into their analytics, yes.

tentacleuno 6y ago
It's opt-out. Feel free to check this yourself, instead of mindlessly defending Firefox. I'm tired of this exclusionary attitude on Hacker News, to be perfectly honest. There is absolutely no warning that this telemetry is active, which is a dark-pattern in itself. Looks like the Firefox mob have already got to this post. No wonder nothing is changing. -- tentacleuno
- icebraining 6y ago
  You are right! My information was out of date. I just installed Firefox for Android (I generally use the Beta) and that crap was enabled by default. Sigh.
  - tentacleuno 6y ago
    I think it's now enabled by default with Fenix. Actually, I think it was enabled by default in the older one too?

franga2000 6y ago

Chrome/Edge/everything else: anybody and their dog can personally identifiy individuals on the Internet and then sell that information to advertisers who use it to psychologically manipulate you into buying things. There is no consent or opt-out. Mozilla: we've made sure people can't do any of that, but we collect anonymous statistics about how our own software is used. Oh, and we tell you about it and let you turn it off if you want. People: Mozilla is evil and doesn't actually respect privacy.

tentacleuno 6y ago
They don't tell you about it. That's the whole point ...?
- franga2000 6y ago
  Of course they do! Haven't you seen a fresh install of Firefox in like 10 years? The second thing you see is the little "do you want to opt out of analytics" popup. They don't say anything about the other, non-privacy-related requests FF makes (like portal and update checks), but those are explained in their privacy policy and it's very easy to verify that they in fact don't contain any information you should be worried about. Like it or not, there isn't a privacy issue here. I wouldn't mind a "silent mode", sure, but ultimately, that's a missing feature, not a critical bug.