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Been stuck on waterfox since the password manager downgraded to 'Lockwise' (no field edits, no file imports). And since the great add-on reset i can't get a de

by cortic 6y ago

Been stuck on waterfox since the password manager downgraded to 'Lockwise' (no field edits, no file imports). And since the great add-on reset i can't get a decent tree tabs that doesn't steal mouse focus from the main window.. So, yes, great, another version i probably won't be using.

nine_k 6y ago
Hmm, Tree Style Tabs worked quite well for me for years, never ever stealing focus.
- cortic 6y ago
  Go to google, type something in, then try to select the text by click-dragging right to left, but keep dragging until the cursor is over the Tree Style Tabs, then release.. the page will not have registered the release and if you move the cursor over the page again it will deselect what you have just selected. Sounds like just a nuisance, and it is, but i use quick-keys with my mouse and it really messes with my workflow.
icebraining 6y ago
In case it's helpful, file imports to Lockwise can be enabled: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/import-login-data-file https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/import-login-data-file Not sure what do you mean by "field edits", I can edit the username/password just fine...?
- cortic 6y ago
  Thanks, hopefully that will work for importing. A lot of websites confuse the field auto detect system, you go back to the page after saving password at login and FF can't find the fields, usually cause it didn't save the field names properly (you can see this in PasswordFox). The old password manager you could edit the field names as well as the U:P and URL fixing this problem. The new Lockwise basically turned 5 minutes of logging in to 25 minutes of copy and pasting for me..
kevingadd 6y ago
You don't have to love it (I have similar complaints) but the tree tabs thing is weird. I've been using Tree Style Tab for a while and it doesn't have any issue like that.
- majewsky 6y ago
  Same here. I have no idea what bug GP is even refering to.
rukshn 6y ago
I just checked Waterfox does it own by an ad company? https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/waterfox-has-been-sold-to-an-ad-company-system1/ https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/waterfox-has-been-sold...
- cortic 6y ago
  First thing i did after installing was disable updates, i should be fine for a while. -Another thing that is becoming more difficult to do in FF.
  - franga2000 6y ago
    > First thing i did after installing was disable updates, i should be fine for a while. That's a really dangerous thing to do for a piece of software that's made to run untrusted code on your system!
    - cortic 6y ago
      NoScript; My browser only runs trusted code on my system. And if you are running an updated browser without NoScript or some equivalent, that's very dangerous.
      - franga2000 6y ago
        Sure, NoScript makes the danger less significant, but it's still not as good as NoScript+updates. Security bugs in media decoders are fairly common, so there are still plenty of opportunities for danger if your browser is old enough. But since browser JavaScript engines are some of the best sandboxes in existence due to being constantly tested and updated, not using NoScript really isn't dangerous. Sure, disabling JS reduces the amount of risk, but that amount is already low enough to be tolerable for most people.
  - rukshn 6y ago
    Waterfox is owned by an ad network for more than an year
eznzt 6y ago
The new about:config editor is also rubbish. I don't know why they rewrote it since it's just... worse?

by cortic 6y ago

nine_k 6y ago

Hmm, Tree Style Tabs worked quite well for me for years, never ever stealing focus.

cortic 6y ago
Go to google, type something in, then try to select the text by click-dragging right to left, but keep dragging until the cursor is over the Tree Style Tabs, then release.. the page will not have registered the release and if you move the cursor over the page again it will deselect what you have just selected. Sounds like just a nuisance, and it is, but i use quick-keys with my mouse and it really messes with my workflow.

icebraining 6y ago

In case it's helpful, file imports to Lockwise can be enabled: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/import-login-data-file https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/import-login-data-file Not sure what do you mean by "field edits", I can edit the username/password just fine...?

cortic 6y ago
Thanks, hopefully that will work for importing. A lot of websites confuse the field auto detect system, you go back to the page after saving password at login and FF can't find the fields, usually cause it didn't save the field names properly (you can see this in PasswordFox). The old password manager you could edit the field names as well as the U:P and URL fixing this problem. The new Lockwise basically turned 5 minutes of logging in to 25 minutes of copy and pasting for me..

kevingadd 6y ago

You don't have to love it (I have similar complaints) but the tree tabs thing is weird. I've been using Tree Style Tab for a while and it doesn't have any issue like that.

majewsky 6y ago
Same here. I have no idea what bug GP is even refering to.

rukshn 6y ago

I just checked Waterfox does it own by an ad company? https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/waterfox-has-been-sold-to-an-ad-company-system1/ https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/waterfox-has-been-sold...

cortic 6y ago
First thing i did after installing was disable updates, i should be fine for a while. -Another thing that is becoming more difficult to do in FF.
- franga2000 6y ago
  > First thing i did after installing was disable updates, i should be fine for a while. That's a really dangerous thing to do for a piece of software that's made to run untrusted code on your system!
  - cortic 6y ago
    NoScript; My browser only runs trusted code on my system. And if you are running an updated browser without NoScript or some equivalent, that's very dangerous.
    - franga2000 6y ago
      Sure, NoScript makes the danger less significant, but it's still not as good as NoScript+updates. Security bugs in media decoders are fairly common, so there are still plenty of opportunities for danger if your browser is old enough. But since browser JavaScript engines are some of the best sandboxes in existence due to being constantly tested and updated, not using NoScript really isn't dangerous. Sure, disabling JS reduces the amount of risk, but that amount is already low enough to be tolerable for most people.
- rukshn 6y ago
  Waterfox is owned by an ad network for more than an year

eznzt 6y ago

The new about:config editor is also rubbish. I don't know why they rewrote it since it's just... worse?