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Absolutely. I am pro-climate change and I still think the US’s relationship with Saudi Arabia is strategically stupid.

• enriquto 6y ago
  > I am pro-climate change Wait, what? What do you mean?
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  • joejohnson 6y ago
    What does “no matter your stance on climate change” mean? (parent comment) For the record, I am also pro-gravity.
    • enriquto 6y ago
      It sounds as if you fought for the climate to change faster, liberating tons of methane in the atmosphere and burning fossil fuels like crazy.
      • pc86 6y ago
        Which is a stance that nobody believe, so it's clearly not that. Even people who deny climate change as a science wouldn't describe themselves as "fighting for the climate to change faster."
      • cbozeman 6y ago
        This would actually be hilarious... some deranged Bond villain who's conspiring to melt the permafrost to release all the methane so as to drive humanity extinct, lol...
        • TeMPOraL 6y ago
          That's what Bitcoin is, essentially.
          • cbozeman 6y ago
            As someone with quite a few Bitcoins, and who actively mines using my hardware when it isn't in use, that is most emphatically not what it is. Every cent you "save" is diluted when the Federal Reserve decides to print up a trillion or two. You can't "print up" a few trillion Bitcoins. You can't add more. You can't magically make them go away (unless of course your throw away your hard drive with the wallet data on it...). And unlike any other type of currency, where some shady deal can take place and there's absolutely no record of it... there's a ledger of every single transaction ever made on the Bitcoin network. You may not know who that address belongs to, but the transaction is there.
            • TeMPOraL 6y ago
              > Every cent you "save" is diluted when the Federal Reserve decides to print up a trillion or two. And yet, disregarding exceptional circumstances in world history, it's generally stable. I can buy bread for roughly the same amount of dollars I bought it for last year. > You can't "print up" a few trillion Bitcoins. You can't add more. You can't magically make them go away (unless of course your throw away your hard drive with the wallet data on it...). You can do plenty other funny things if you have equivalent amount of power. > And unlike any other type of currency, where some shady deal can take place and there's absolutely no record of it... there's a ledger of every single transaction ever made on the Bitcoin network. You may not know who that address belongs to, but the transaction is there. Sure. But instead, you can just... give someone the key to your address. Roughly equivalent to how shady deals happen with fiat - you give someone a briefcase full of cash. All of that is irrelevant to the point here, though: the point is that if you tried to imagine an evil mastermind hell-bent on accelerating climate change, Bitcoin is what they would come up with - an engine of unlimited energy waste, fueled by naivety and unadulterated greed.
    • cbozeman 6y ago
      Whether you believe climate change is real, not real, man-made, not man-made, naturally induced, unnaturally induced, etc., its all pointless. Electric cars are the future no matter what. They're quieter, they produce less emissions over their life cycle, they have a lower TCO (total cost of ownership), they're faster, and frankly, every electric vehicle I've ever driven is just plain more fun to drive (granted I've only ever driven three, but still...). Our shipping is moving away from oil and to natural gas, because shipping is an enormous contributor to CO2 emissions. So oil's value is going to be dropping precipitously in the next 100 years.
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