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Yeah but those people existing doesn’t change the actual merits of the idea itself.

• standardUser 6y ago
  If the end result is that someone who could vote in the last election cannot vote in the next election, we need a better idea.
  • andrewflnr 6y ago
    That's a good heuristic. I would only counterbalance it with the possibility of enabling people to vote who could not in the last election (thinking again of people with no fixed address).
• maxerickson 6y ago
  Which idea? Requiring id and then making it hard to get doesn't have a lot of merit if there aren't a bunch of people exploiting the lack of id checks.
  • chrisco255 6y ago
    Who doesn't have an ID in 2020? You can't fly without one. You can't drive without one. You can't go to a bar without one. You can't book a hotel in most cases without one. It just seems like people are arguing that edge cases exist and therefore we cant require ID. There is no conspiracy against people getting an ID in 2020. Everybody very much wants you to have one.
    • maxerickson 6y ago
      None of that is an argument for requiring an id to vote though, it's just things you think it would be ridiculous to go without. If someone has registered and voted in the past and has an expired id, should they be excluded from voting if they don't renew in time? Even though registration is already a sufficient barrier to fraud?