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Burden of proof is on the accuser, and when the Trump side arrived in court over 60 times they didn’t bring any evidence. Occam’s razor says they don’t have any

Burden of proof is on the accuser, and when the Trump side arrived in court over 60 times they didn’t bring any evidence. Occam’s razor says they don’t have any actual evidence, since if they did they would have brought it to court.

SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
While I absolutely agree, it was disappointing that states didn’t go out of their way to prove Biden won, because now we have nearly 1/2 the country that isn’t quite sure. I get what the laws are and mostly why they are. I just think elections should be a system without question, regardless how ridiculous the claim is. It should be trivial to without question and verifiably prove them wrong.
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  While in general I agree that election systems should be obviously secure to the average voter, in this case I seriously doubt that it would help. Fundamentally the issue here is that Trump and his hangers on are absolutely willing to just lie their heads off, and his fans don’t seem to care one bit. If their fans will believe obvious bullshit such as the theory that the dead Hugo Chavez rigged an election for Biden with the help of Dominion, why would they believe what the states have to say about the election? Heck, several counties have had to point out that they don’t use Dominion machines. If such basic facts can’t dissuade those who think this election was stolen, it’s not clear what would do it.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > it was disappointing that states didn’t go out of their way to prove Biden won, Why should they go out of their way? They have a process. They followed the process. They followed the process of handling challenges to the process (of which there were an inordinate number.) If that doesn't prove it, nothing more is going to. > because now we have nearly 1/2 the country that isn’t quite sure. The polls I’ve seen put it closer to 1/4-1/3, not “nearly 1/2”.
- nl 6y ago
  They did go out of their way. Look at the efforts Georgia went to - extra hands counts etc. Didn't make any difference at all. It's very easy to throw doubt on something when people want it to be wrong.

SV_BubbleTime 6y ago

While I absolutely agree, it was disappointing that states didn’t go out of their way to prove Biden won, because now we have nearly 1/2 the country that isn’t quite sure. I get what the laws are and mostly why they are. I just think elections should be a system without question, regardless how ridiculous the claim is. It should be trivial to without question and verifiably prove them wrong.

ashtonkem 6y ago
While in general I agree that election systems should be obviously secure to the average voter, in this case I seriously doubt that it would help. Fundamentally the issue here is that Trump and his hangers on are absolutely willing to just lie their heads off, and his fans don’t seem to care one bit. If their fans will believe obvious bullshit such as the theory that the dead Hugo Chavez rigged an election for Biden with the help of Dominion, why would they believe what the states have to say about the election? Heck, several counties have had to point out that they don’t use Dominion machines. If such basic facts can’t dissuade those who think this election was stolen, it’s not clear what would do it.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> it was disappointing that states didn’t go out of their way to prove Biden won, Why should they go out of their way? They have a process. They followed the process. They followed the process of handling challenges to the process (of which there were an inordinate number.) If that doesn't prove it, nothing more is going to. > because now we have nearly 1/2 the country that isn’t quite sure. The polls I’ve seen put it closer to 1/4-1/3, not “nearly 1/2”.
nl 6y ago
They did go out of their way. Look at the efforts Georgia went to - extra hands counts etc. Didn't make any difference at all. It's very easy to throw doubt on something when people want it to be wrong.