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> Scale matters. 160 million votes were cast in the U.S. in each of the past 2 elections. > 36 million votes were cast in France in the last election. > The U
by herbstein 6y ago
> Scale matters. 160 million votes were cast in the U.S. in each of the past 2 elections.
> 36 million votes were cast in France in the last election.
> The U.S. is capable of counting 36 million votes by hand overnight as well, and most votes were once counted by hand in the U.S.
I don't understand this argument. In France, a population of roughly 67 million people can count 36 million ballots by hand overnight. That's 1.86 people per ballot.
In the US 328 million people cast 160 million ballots. That's 2.05 people per ballot.
Since counting is done at each individual polling place, what's actually keeping the US from doing the same as France? It's not like they're shipping around all of the ballots to one place, and they're limited by geometry and ballot distribution to volunteer counters. Create a polling place per 10,000 people, and within X miles of everyone. Smaller polling places would finish faster, but the big polling places don't really have to scale past what European countries already count successfully every election.
- gamblor956 6y agoAgain, scale. Voting in France is like a rain spread out over the country, because the population is more spread out across geographic centers. It's easier to handle votes. Voting in the U.S. is like a series of scattered torrential downpours, because more than 70% of the population lives in a metropolitan area. It's not simply a matter of the number of bodies, at the scale the U.S. metro areas deal with you have significant concerns about the physical logistics related to moving that many ballots that much smaller, less dense countries do not have.