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Are the specific votes public record? If not, it is impossible to verify votes were recorded correctly. But the addresses being public record is interesting.

by yters 6y ago

Are the specific votes public record? If not, it is impossible to verify votes were recorded correctly. But the addresses being public record is interesting. If that information is public record then it would be easy for citizens to randomly verify enough records to ascertain whether enough votes were dumped to make a difference. If what you say is correct then I can try verifying it myself. Why has no one publicly done this? Would be an easy way to put the matter to rest. UPDATE: I just checked the GA website, and all it gives me is voter IDs and whom they voted for. No way I can verify vote fraud did not occur from that information. No addresses or names.

JshWright 6y ago
No, the specifics of how people vote is not publicly available. That is important, in order to prevent voter coercion.
- yters 6y ago
  How exactly is the possibility of vote dumping and vote flipping eliminated?
  - javagram 6y ago
    > How exactly is the possibility of vote dumping and vote flipping eliminated? You cannot simply add ballots to the election as the totals would then be incorrect. (There would be more votes than people recorded as voting) What is “Vote Dumping”? Do you mean inserting fraudulent paper ballots into the stored ballots to be counted? The election was recorded on physical paper ballots. Are you alleging a vast conspiracy of bipartisan election workers and Republican Secretary of State monitors to replace the legitimate physical ballots with fake ones? All ballots were hand counted and the initial Dominion machine count was confirmed accurate, so the allegation would be a conspiracy where Dominion scanners inaccurately counted the original paper ballots, then the paper ballots were secretly replaced with fakes to match the inaccurate Dominion counts? And this would have had to been done state-wide without a single whistleblower. It’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory if you try to write it out.
    - yters 6y ago
      An election theft is conspiracy by definition. The question is whether the conspiracy is feasible. But it is feasible if only a few counties or cities committed fraud. What makes conspiracy infeasible is widespread collusion without a mechanism of coordination and ensuring secrecy. Collusion in a few large municipalities does not seem obviously out of the question.
      - dragonwriter 6y ago
        > An election theft is conspiracy by definition. No, its not. Either a single actor with appropriate access or multiple independent actors not acting in coordination could effect the theft of an election without any conspiracy. Conspiracy requires an agreement to work together; that might help with an election theft but it is not “by definition” necessary for election theft.
        yters 6y ago
        Multiple conspiracies of one?
javagram 6y ago
> UPDATE: I just checked the GA website, and all it gives me is voter IDs and whom they voted for. No way I can verify vote fraud did not occur from that information. No addresses or names. I would suggest that if you weren’t able to find this information using google, you should think about what that means for your research skills and the skills/knowledge of those who create and propagate the voter fraud lies. Some humility might be in order as to why experts don’t think there was fraud, but others who don’t understand how elections work do.... https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/voter_history_files https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/voter_history_files “ You will need a voter file in order to associate a voter with his or her voter history. The voter and history files both contain the voter registration number and can be linked on this field. For more information on voter lists, please send an email to AJackson@sos.ga.gov with the subject “Voter List Files.”” https://www.11alive.com/article/news/verify/verify-can-your-neighbors-find-out-whether-you-voted/85-611271572 https://www.11alive.com/article/news/verify/verify-can-your-... “ So is it true your neighbors or friends can find out if you voted? 11Alive verified with the Secretary of State’s website that under Georgia law, “voter registration lists are available to the public and contain the following information: voter name, residential address, mailing address if different, race, gender, registration date, and last voting date.” The information is available by order for a fee on the Secretary of State’s Office website, though is not to be used for commercial purposes.”
- yters 6y ago
  Thanks, I will see if I can get ahold of the list. However, I would still need a second list of valid addresses for each person to create a true validation.

by yters 6y ago

JshWright 6y ago

No, the specifics of how people vote is not publicly available. That is important, in order to prevent voter coercion.

yters 6y ago
How exactly is the possibility of vote dumping and vote flipping eliminated?
- javagram 6y ago
  > How exactly is the possibility of vote dumping and vote flipping eliminated? You cannot simply add ballots to the election as the totals would then be incorrect. (There would be more votes than people recorded as voting) What is “Vote Dumping”? Do you mean inserting fraudulent paper ballots into the stored ballots to be counted? The election was recorded on physical paper ballots. Are you alleging a vast conspiracy of bipartisan election workers and Republican Secretary of State monitors to replace the legitimate physical ballots with fake ones? All ballots were hand counted and the initial Dominion machine count was confirmed accurate, so the allegation would be a conspiracy where Dominion scanners inaccurately counted the original paper ballots, then the paper ballots were secretly replaced with fakes to match the inaccurate Dominion counts? And this would have had to been done state-wide without a single whistleblower. It’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory if you try to write it out.
  - yters 6y ago
    An election theft is conspiracy by definition. The question is whether the conspiracy is feasible. But it is feasible if only a few counties or cities committed fraud. What makes conspiracy infeasible is widespread collusion without a mechanism of coordination and ensuring secrecy. Collusion in a few large municipalities does not seem obviously out of the question.
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > An election theft is conspiracy by definition. No, its not. Either a single actor with appropriate access or multiple independent actors not acting in coordination could effect the theft of an election without any conspiracy. Conspiracy requires an agreement to work together; that might help with an election theft but it is not “by definition” necessary for election theft.
      - yters 6y ago
        Multiple conspiracies of one?

javagram 6y ago

> UPDATE: I just checked the GA website, and all it gives me is voter IDs and whom they voted for. No way I can verify vote fraud did not occur from that information. No addresses or names. I would suggest that if you weren’t able to find this information using google, you should think about what that means for your research skills and the skills/knowledge of those who create and propagate the voter fraud lies. Some humility might be in order as to why experts don’t think there was fraud, but others who don’t understand how elections work do.... https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/voter_history_files https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/voter_history_files “ You will need a voter file in order to associate a voter with his or her voter history. The voter and history files both contain the voter registration number and can be linked on this field. For more information on voter lists, please send an email to AJackson@sos.ga.gov with the subject “Voter List Files.”” https://www.11alive.com/article/news/verify/verify-can-your-neighbors-find-out-whether-you-voted/85-611271572 https://www.11alive.com/article/news/verify/verify-can-your-... “ So is it true your neighbors or friends can find out if you voted? 11Alive verified with the Secretary of State’s website that under Georgia law, “voter registration lists are available to the public and contain the following information: voter name, residential address, mailing address if different, race, gender, registration date, and last voting date.” The information is available by order for a fee on the Secretary of State’s Office website, though is not to be used for commercial purposes.”

yters 6y ago
Thanks, I will see if I can get ahold of the list. However, I would still need a second list of valid addresses for each person to create a true validation.