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I'm interested in this topic... my list - grinding teeth in sleep - nightly/morningly sleep paralysis - not being able to breath through nose sleep is hard.

by kowlo 6y ago

I'm interested in this topic... my list - grinding teeth in sleep - nightly/morningly sleep paralysis - not being able to breath through nose sleep is hard...

graeme 6y ago
For the nose: try breathe right strips. I had chronic nasal congestion. Not only did those help me breathe at night but they seemed to have helped my daytime breathing as I keep my nostrils open a bit wider. My average blood oxygen rose after starting.
- kowlo 6y ago
  Thank you for the recommendation. I've ordered a pack of 10 to try - I hope they help.
  - graeme 6y ago
    No prob. Be sure to use warm water when you take them off in the morning. Makes it substantially easier. I forgot, the other thing that helps is a saline rinse. I like the neilmed solutions. If you don’t use the premade water solutions, be sure to boil water or use distilled.
    - kowlo 6y ago
      An update! I purchased a pack and I've had it on for 5 hours now. I think it's working. It isn't perfect, but I can actually get some air in, thank you. I tried the neilmed sinuflo readyrinse a while ago but I couldn't ever get it to work properly as my nose was almost sealed shut! Maybe it will help now. The only trouble is I don't want to take it off now!
      - graeme 6y ago
        Awesome, very pleased to hear it! For neilmed, you might try one of the higher flow crevices temporarily to dislodge stuff: https://www.amazon.com/Multi-Purpose-Saline-Spray-ounces/dp/B002GU64EI/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=Neilmed&qid=1611704367&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/Multi-Purpose-Saline-Spray-ounces/dp/... For the breathe right, I can tell you my early experience: 1. I actually got hypocapnia: pins and needles in arms from excess ventilation. This just showed how unused my body was to proper airflow. My pulse o2 went up a couple percentage points and the hypocapnia went away fairly quickly. 2. My nose clogged up a bit temporarily, almost like it wasn’t used to the airflow. This went away. After a couple days 3. My nostrils started staying further apart when I didn’t have the strips on. I basically just resisted them collapsing inwards. So you may find after a few days use they lead to some improvements when not wearing them. I use them most when sleeping. You might also consider a sleep study, in case thus blockage has led to apnea or anything similar. Final thing: there is a device called a pulmonica, used to train the lungs. Believe I read reports from some people saying it improved congestion via vibration of the sinuses. I have not tried one extensively, but am currently evaluating. I’d consider my sinus congestion mostly managed now so can’t give feedback there. But as you seem to have a severe case it might be worth tracking down this lead.
chubot 6y ago
For nose breathing, myofunctional therapy fixed it for me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25911557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25911557 It wasn't cheap, but it only took a few weeks, after years of no results! I tried Breathe Right strips and many more things. The problem is that everyone is a snowflake, so you have to try a bunch of different things. It was a brand new feeling being able to exercise with my mouth closed, and now sleep with my mouth closed. For others who aren't sure about it, try holding a popsicle stick between your sealed lips and do stuff around the nose. If you feel out of breath and want to drop the stick, then you're a mouth breather.
knicholes 6y ago
You experience sleep paralysis daily?!? I want to cry for you thinking of the terror you must be having to endure. I'm so sorry.
- kowlo 6y ago
  For as long as I can remember! My first real fear of "ghosts" as a child was from a sleep paralysis episode where I had the usual hallucinations that go with it. Every morning when I "wake" into sleep paralysis, I'm lucky if I'm shaken awake because I can signal it with my breathing. Either way, I will wake up after some struggle... and it is so exhausting that I will sometimes fall back asleep, only have sleep paralysis again. It means I wake up stressed! A bonus is that I also "fall" into sleep paralysis when going to bed. Having to make up to 4 attempts to fall asleep can be frustrating... Here is the combo! I can barely breathe through my nose, so if I experience sleep paralysis whilst I'm on my side, front, or somehow under the covers, I will feel like I'm suffocating... when I pull out of it, my eyes will feel strained and on rare occasions bloodshot. "you look terrible you should get some sleep"

by kowlo 6y ago

I'm interested in this topic... my list - grinding teeth in sleep - nightly/morningly sleep paralysis - not being able to breath through nose sleep is hard...

graeme 6y ago

For the nose: try breathe right strips. I had chronic nasal congestion. Not only did those help me breathe at night but they seemed to have helped my daytime breathing as I keep my nostrils open a bit wider. My average blood oxygen rose after starting.

kowlo 6y ago
Thank you for the recommendation. I've ordered a pack of 10 to try - I hope they help.
- graeme 6y ago
  No prob. Be sure to use warm water when you take them off in the morning. Makes it substantially easier. I forgot, the other thing that helps is a saline rinse. I like the neilmed solutions. If you don’t use the premade water solutions, be sure to boil water or use distilled.
  - kowlo 6y ago
    An update! I purchased a pack and I've had it on for 5 hours now. I think it's working. It isn't perfect, but I can actually get some air in, thank you. I tried the neilmed sinuflo readyrinse a while ago but I couldn't ever get it to work properly as my nose was almost sealed shut! Maybe it will help now. The only trouble is I don't want to take it off now!
    - graeme 6y ago
      Awesome, very pleased to hear it! For neilmed, you might try one of the higher flow crevices temporarily to dislodge stuff: https://www.amazon.com/Multi-Purpose-Saline-Spray-ounces/dp/B002GU64EI/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=Neilmed&qid=1611704367&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/Multi-Purpose-Saline-Spray-ounces/dp/... For the breathe right, I can tell you my early experience: 1. I actually got hypocapnia: pins and needles in arms from excess ventilation. This just showed how unused my body was to proper airflow. My pulse o2 went up a couple percentage points and the hypocapnia went away fairly quickly. 2. My nose clogged up a bit temporarily, almost like it wasn’t used to the airflow. This went away. After a couple days 3. My nostrils started staying further apart when I didn’t have the strips on. I basically just resisted them collapsing inwards. So you may find after a few days use they lead to some improvements when not wearing them. I use them most when sleeping. You might also consider a sleep study, in case thus blockage has led to apnea or anything similar. Final thing: there is a device called a pulmonica, used to train the lungs. Believe I read reports from some people saying it improved congestion via vibration of the sinuses. I have not tried one extensively, but am currently evaluating. I’d consider my sinus congestion mostly managed now so can’t give feedback there. But as you seem to have a severe case it might be worth tracking down this lead.

chubot 6y ago

For nose breathing, myofunctional therapy fixed it for me: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25911557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25911557 It wasn't cheap, but it only took a few weeks, after years of no results! I tried Breathe Right strips and many more things. The problem is that everyone is a snowflake, so you have to try a bunch of different things. It was a brand new feeling being able to exercise with my mouth closed, and now sleep with my mouth closed. For others who aren't sure about it, try holding a popsicle stick between your sealed lips and do stuff around the nose. If you feel out of breath and want to drop the stick, then you're a mouth breather.

knicholes 6y ago

You experience sleep paralysis daily?!? I want to cry for you thinking of the terror you must be having to endure. I'm so sorry.

kowlo 6y ago
For as long as I can remember! My first real fear of "ghosts" as a child was from a sleep paralysis episode where I had the usual hallucinations that go with it. Every morning when I "wake" into sleep paralysis, I'm lucky if I'm shaken awake because I can signal it with my breathing. Either way, I will wake up after some struggle... and it is so exhausting that I will sometimes fall back asleep, only have sleep paralysis again. It means I wake up stressed! A bonus is that I also "fall" into sleep paralysis when going to bed. Having to make up to 4 attempts to fall asleep can be frustrating... Here is the combo! I can barely breathe through my nose, so if I experience sleep paralysis whilst I'm on my side, front, or somehow under the covers, I will feel like I'm suffocating... when I pull out of it, my eyes will feel strained and on rare occasions bloodshot. "you look terrible you should get some sleep"