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> Does brazil have a 50c army like china now? If it does, I didn't get my 50 Mao cents for posting. And you'd think China would support the Partido dos Trabal

by Natsu 6y ago

> Does brazil have a 50c army like china now? If it does, I didn't get my 50 Mao cents for posting. And you'd think China would support the Partido dos Trabalhadores (Worker's Party) ideologically, but it's their Mao cents, not mine. Lula was convicted twice, he only got freed from jail because of a new legal ruling that said that you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard. That's... not the same as "no convictions" even if you want to claim the judges were both biased. And I'm not aware of anyone accusing Lula of being a pedophile, though maybe someone did? Everything I remember hearing blamed him for robbing Petrobras. You sure you're not getting Lula confused with "João de Deus"? I thought he was the one who was raping people.

marcodiego 6y ago
> he only got freed from jail because of a new legal ruling that said that you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard Actually Lula deliberately chose to stay imprisoned: https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pena-no-regime-aberto-e-agora/ https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pen...
- Natsu 6y ago
  Your article refers to the "regime semiaberto" that Lula was offered after completing one sixth of his sentence. This was prior to the Brazilian Supreme Court ruling that released him on 8 November 2019. His case is still pending before the Supremo Tribunal Federal.
  - marcodiego 6y ago
    Translating: Lula could go on probation but deliberately chose to remain imprisoned because he did not '[...] recognized any legitimacy of the process which condemned him[...]'. The supreme court then ruled that "you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard". Only then he decided to get out of prison.
    - Natsu 6y ago
      I don't think we're disagreeing with each other at this point. He was only actually freed by the supreme court ruling that he could not be jailed until all appeals (of which there are many) were exhausted. Regime semiaberto is roughly equivalent to being allowed to go out under house arrest and wouldn't have changed his conditions much.

by Natsu 6y ago

marcodiego 6y ago

> he only got freed from jail because of a new legal ruling that said that you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard Actually Lula deliberately chose to stay imprisoned: https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pena-no-regime-aberto-e-agora/ https://veja.abril.com.br/politica/lula-nao-quer-cumprir-pen...

Natsu 6y ago
Your article refers to the "regime semiaberto" that Lula was offered after completing one sixth of his sentence. This was prior to the Brazilian Supreme Court ruling that released him on 8 November 2019. His case is still pending before the Supremo Tribunal Federal.
- marcodiego 6y ago
  Translating: Lula could go on probation but deliberately chose to remain imprisoned because he did not '[...] recognized any legitimacy of the process which condemned him[...]'. The supreme court then ruled that "you can't be jailed until all appeals have been heard". Only then he decided to get out of prison.
  - Natsu 6y ago
    I don't think we're disagreeing with each other at this point. He was only actually freed by the supreme court ruling that he could not be jailed until all appeals (of which there are many) were exhausted. Regime semiaberto is roughly equivalent to being allowed to go out under house arrest and wouldn't have changed his conditions much.