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Probably because they are forced to use really shitty subbing formats for assisted text in some compliance format :| Edit: Are those baked into the video or di
by novok 6y ago
Probably because they are forced to use really shitty subbing formats for assisted text in some compliance format :|
Edit: Are those baked into the video or did they just use the ASS format?
- Lammy 6y agoEven the old-school analog EIA-608 captioning system can do positional captions. It's all these modern web players (like Youtube's) that have regressed to a single line of text bottom-center.
- jowsie 6y agoYou can definitely still do some interesting things with YouTube subtitles; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cqqGOvOGfI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cqqGOvOGfI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvO8kcWFFT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvO8kcWFFT0
- erk__ 6y agoYouTube actually supports it through a feature called WebVTT [0], though it is rarely used, an example of it is this video [1] where it is used for placement and lighting up text for karaoke. The actual code for it is looks like this: 00:03:31.485 --> 00:03:31.719 align:start position:0% line:0% <c.color96D2D3>Hey! nanika ga okoru spe cial </c><c.colorFEFEFE>night</c> 00:03:31.485 --> 00:03:31.719 align:start position:0% line:0% <c.color96D2D3>Hey! nanika ga okoru spe cial </c><c.colorFEFEFE>night</c> 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:32.486 align:start position:0% line:0% <c.color96D2D3>Hey! nanika ga okoru special night</c> 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:32.486 align:start position:0% line:0% <c.color96D2D3>Hey! nanika ga okoru special night</c> [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebVTT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebVTT [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AufydOsiD6M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AufydOsiD6M
- simlevesque 6y agoJust a heads up for anyone who want to see the karaoke, set the CC language to Japanese.
- iotku 6y agoHere's another good example: https://youtu.be/ddWJatRxfz8 https://youtu.be/ddWJatRxfz8 And again, set language to Japanese.
- kuschku 6y agoActually most modern systems support image embedding, animations, styling, and positioning with TTML. It’s an official spec, supported by every television, Netflix, Chromecast, etc. It’s also a format no fansubber ever heard of.
- brmgb 6y agoTTML is also supported by pretty much every piece of m pptultimedia equipment out there including chromecast , which is the exact opposite of ASS which is supported by basically nothing. The fansubbing community is so annoying with its insistence on terrible formats. The community has somehow standardized on 10bit hevc with ASS subtitles. That makes releases so hard to play.
- kuschku 6y agoAnd while there are ways to implement ASS in the browser, those require compiling the one single ASS library that actually works (because it’s an implementation-defined format, ofc) to WASM and running that in the browser. With the expected performance issues. Now try running that on a Chromecast >_> The fansubbing community is just so stuck in weird formats which provide no benefit except a virtual moat preventing newcomers.
- Hamuko 6y agoCan you watch Crunchyroll on a Chromecast? They at least use ASS in the browser.
- kuschku 6y agoSure, but only the english subtitle, and you can’t disable it. For Chromecast, you have to use the burned-in subtitles. Which is expected, considering the hardware just isn’t powerful enough for ASS subtitles (to get good performance, even on a desktop you’ll want a recent CPU and at least 1-2GB of RAM): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromecast#Model_comparison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromecast#Model_comparison
- Hamuko 6y agoThey use the ASS format and the text isn't baked into the video. Here's the same video with the softsubs toggled on and off: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/10459 https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/10459